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forquare1
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm Posts: 5161 Location: /dev/tty0
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:15 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Question: Flash works on Android but not iOS, but what about AIR? Are Apple going to allow it or is "All app stores" just a pipe dream?
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:08 am |
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steve74
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:43 pm Posts: 1798 Location: Manchester
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At last, the penny's finally dropped with Adobe - Flash is rubbish on a mobile. In fact, it's just rubbish full stop. If only they'd admitted this to themselves 2 years ago, then they could have been concentrating on making the desktop version better. 
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:53 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:26 am |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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what will all the device makers whose only sales pitch is 'It's just like the iPhone/iPad, but it does Flash!' do now then?
Jon
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:51 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Widgets! I love the widgets on Android. I know iOS 4 didn't have them, does iOS 5? Unless iOS gets an equivalent, I won't really consider it.
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:57 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Bitch to the EU that they can’t connect to iTunes.
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:00 am |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Works well enough for me thank you. On another note the British spelling is "rumour".
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:14 am |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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Seems to work fine on my WebOS tablet too; 720p video and all those millions of free games.
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:21 am |
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bobbdobbs
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm Posts: 5490 Location: just behind you!
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Carry on and say it still can do flash unlike the iPhone/iPad and you can have more choice about where you buy your apps from. In other words nothing has changed yet.
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:32 am |
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forquare1
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm Posts: 5161 Location: /dev/tty0
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It'll still do Flash, but it'll be unsupported apart from major security patches. It came pasted with the title. Flash is like iTunes, IMO. Windows users hate it because it runs so terribly, Mac users don't have this problem. Flash on OS X runs terribly, whereas Windows doesn't seem to have the problem... iTunes is only a media player that you acknowledge that you'll need if you buy an iPod/iPhone/iPad. Flash is a web experience and there is no other way of viewing Flash files (to my knowledge?).
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:34 am |
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HeatherKay
Moderator
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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I'm no fan of Flash either way, but I do have the current plugin installed on the MacBook Pro. It used to be a resource hog, slow, crashing all the time, and causing the system to bog down. The current iteration is much less so. It rarely kicks the fans in while viewing video - something the previous versions used to do almost as soon as content appeared (though most of the time I have ClickToFlash blocking content, or switching it to alternative playback schemes). Perhaps Adobe have finally got Flash Player under control? Just in time for its demise... 
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:42 am |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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I have to say the mobile version seems better than the plugin for Firefox... although maybe that's just because my phone is more powerful than my computer 
_________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
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Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:03 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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At this point, reading the various news reports, there seems no sign that they're abandoning Flash entirely. Flash for the desktop will still be a big thing for them by the looks of things. The only thing that's bought the farm is the mobile device implementation of Flash.
As for carrying on using the Android plug in as it is, that's certainly an option in the short term. However, it seems to me there are two ways Flash could go from here. It could either continue to evolve as a purely desktop technology or it could wither. In the latter case less and less content will be available requiring it so in the end you won't need it. The former option is actually worse, as it's likely that content produced with later version of Flash won't be backwards compatible with the older implementation the Android users are stuck with (if you think that won't happen, try browsing the web on a pc with Flash 9 installed rather than Flash 10) and Android users will be increasingly stuck in the boat with iOS users, only at least iOS users have the certainty that none of it works. Android users will be left to keep trying things and increasingly finding them not working, but sometimes they do. That's no fun.
IMO, it's actually more in Android user's interests at this point for Flash to die entirely. Once it's no longer supported, you really want it gone altogther. Most of the better Android browsers (Dolphin for example) seem to have pretty good HTML5 implementations but I can only see using Flash on the web getting a more and more frustrating experience for Android users in the future.
Flash was the Android's golden egg but it just went past it's sell by date. All it's going to do now is smell a bit stronger every day.
Jon
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
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