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Author:  Fogmeister [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:25 am ]
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http://harrogate-news.co.uk/2011/12/06/ ... poppleton/

I'm surprised this isn't a story about the cyclist trying to find the boy.

The boy wasn't paying attention and nearly caused someone injury.

He's lucky it was only a cycle lane.
Author:  adidan [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:28 am ]
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Fogmeister wrote:
http://harrogate-news.co.uk/2011/12/06/witness-appeal-assault-11-year-old-boy-poppleton/

I'm surprised this isn't a story about the cyclist trying to find the boy.

The boy wasn't paying attention and nearly caused someone injury.

He's lucky it was only a cycle lane.

WTF?

So they're trying to trace a cyclist because a little sh!t wasn't paying attention and caused an accident. I don't understand this story.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:45 am ]
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Uhm, who should've been watching what was going on in front of him?
Sounds like a cyclist who wasn't paying much attention or anticipation of the hazard ahead caused injury to a child.
An accident is never due to a single failing, it's the combination of factors.
The cyclist also grabbed a hold of the injured child (that'll be assault then).
Author:  EddArmitage [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:47 am ]
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With a cyclist being in a cycle lane at 08:15 on a Monday morning, is there not a chance he'll be in the same cycle lane within ± half an hour on Tuesday morning. And Wednesday morning. And Thursday morning...

Surely worth a shout by some bobby if they *really* want to talk to him. He doesn't exactly sound like he's on the run.
Author:  adidan [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:55 am ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
Uhm, who should've been watching what was going on in front of him?

Yeah, but assault?

Anyhoo, not sure why it's taking so long to find him to chat with him about it:

Quote:
At the time of the incident was wearing a yellow fluorescent jacket


:lol:
Author:  Linux_User [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:02 pm ]
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Pedestrians have right of way, end of.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:06 pm ]
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Linux_User wrote:
Pedestrians have right of way, end of.

Not actually legally true. Plus, philosophically, I'm not in favour of any rule or law which removes the requirement from anyone to have some semblance of personsal responsibility. If you (or indeed, I) do something stupid it shouldn't be on someone else's shoulders to bear the consequences.

Jon
Author:  Spreadie [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:29 pm ]
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8:15am on a Monday.

The guy was probably cycling to work.

Option 1: Keep it quiet and stake out the cycle track between 8 and 9am for a day or two, and stop any male cyclist with a grey bike.

Option 2: Make a song and dance about it, ensuring he takes a different route to work; and you never catch him.

:roll:

[edit] didn't see Edd's post. :oops:
Author:  hifidelity2 [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:31 pm ]
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Linux_User wrote:
Pedestrians have right of way, end of.


Do they? - even on a cycle way?

Also try and exert you "Right of Way" on the M1 - jump in front of a lorry shouting "I have the right of Way!" ;)
Author:  HeatherKay [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:44 pm ]
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hifidelity2 wrote:
Also try and exert you "Right of Way" on the M1 - jump in front of a lorry shouting "I have the right of Way!" ;)


That wouldn't work anyway.

Quote:
Pedestrians, bicycles, animals, invalid carriages and motorcycles under 50cc power are prohibited from entering the motorway. Learner drivers are also banned. From the moment you pass the motorway symbol at the start of the road or on an entrance sliproad, you are subject to everything that comes under section 17 of the 1984 Road Traffic Act.


http://www.cbrd.co.uk/roadsfaq/#412

It's not so long ago that big blue signs outlining prohibited traffic appeared at the start of each entry slip road.
Author:  big_D [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:44 am ]
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If the cyclist doesn't want damages or to press a complaint, I don't see where the problem is... :?
Author:  forquare1 [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:20 pm ]
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Linux_User wrote:
Pedestrians have right of way, end of.


If you jump off a bridge with the thought to kill yourself, but a vehicle hits you and badly injures you (before you hit the road), could you then press charges because it was your right of way? </ponders>
Author:  Linux_User [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:32 pm ]
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big_D wrote:
If the cyclist doesn't want damages or to press a complaint, I don't see where the problem is... :?


Quote:
The cyclist grabbed hold of the boy and swore at him

There's your problem.
Author:  Linux_User [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:34 pm ]
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forquare1 wrote:
Linux_User wrote:
Pedestrians have right of way, end of.


If you jump off a bridge with the thought to kill yourself, but a vehicle hits you and badly injures you (before you hit the road), could you then press charges because it was your right of way? </ponders>

No, but if said pedestrian stepped out into the road and you hit him you could easily be up on charges of driving without due care and attention.

As HeatherKay has pointed out, pedestrians are specifically banned from motorways, but all other roads are fair game for pedestrians.
Author:  JohnSheridan [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:46 pm ]
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I can see it now.

Car driver to policeman "I'm sorry officer but he (pedestrian) was all over the road and I had to swerve several times before I hit him" :lol:
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