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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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brataccas
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:14 pm Posts: 5664 Location: Scotland
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If he hadnt found ufo stuff maybe they would of let him go  its as though he really has found ufo files and wont release him due to not wanting "the truth to come out" 
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Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:28 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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This is the USA flexing its muscles and a lopsided extradition treaty. We ratified our end, they have yet to do so.
I do think that Gary has brought it on himself though. You know that if you do something like this, they will come after you, especially in the post 9-11 climate.
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Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:08 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I don't like the treaty in general, but in this case I can't see why he shouldn't be extracted. He admits hacking PC's in America, hacking is a crime, his reasons for doing it are irrelevant.
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Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:47 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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i agree with that ... but the crime did take place on British soil therefore it should be British justice that hears the case America has to learn that sovereign nations, other then themselves, do have a justice system that they must let, without hindrance, carry out justice ...
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Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:06 pm |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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The man pressing the buttons was on British soil, but the crime was committed in America. If I launch a missile at France, is the crime on English or French soil..?
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Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:24 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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this is the conundrum of the internet the crime happened/perpetrated on/within British soil where it caused effect is something else ...
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Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:59 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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No conundrum, the server was in America, so the crime could only have taken place in America. The guy was sitting in the UK, but he made a connection to a machine in America. The data he looked at was in America...
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:13 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I disagree. The computers hacked were in America, the crime took place on American soil.
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:05 am |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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The crime took place on the internet, which is not anyone's sovereign territory. The claims as to where it took place are as equally (in)valid as each other. The fact is though the guy's already served 10 years, which is a pretty long sentence for what he actually did regardless of where anyone might claim it actually happened. The just thing to do would be to say he's served his time and release him.
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Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:08 am |
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Paul1965
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:29 pm Posts: 5975
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He hasn't actually served time in prison though, has he? I thought he lived at home with certain restrictions in place.
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