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Author:  pcernie [ Thu May 31, 2012 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  'Ugly' cabinet dispute thwarts BT in Kensington and Chelsea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18277561

They're definitely on the large side...

Author:  belchingmatt [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:22 pm ]
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They already have faster and more reliable speeds than a lot of people in rural locations. They should accept the design or go without.

Author:  rustybucket [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:49 pm ]
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Quote:
Kensington and Chelsea Borough Council blocked 96 out of 108 planned sites for new cabinets, saying they would ruin "our historic streetscape".

Two thoughts:

  1. Who got paid by whom?
  2. Kensington & Chelsea? I'm not being funny but it's hardly the bloody Hanging Gardens of Babylon, is it? Crawl out from up your own a*seholes, you status-worshipping pseuds.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:03 pm ]
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rustybucket wrote:
  • Kensington & Chelsea? I'm not being funny but it's hardly the bloody Hanging Gardens of Babylon, is it? Crawl out from up your own a*seholes, you status-worshipping pseuds.


Ah, a proponent of the 'race to the bottom' are we?

Author:  rustybucket [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:22 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
rustybucket wrote:
  • Kensington & Chelsea? I'm not being funny but it's hardly the bloody Hanging Gardens of Babylon, is it? Crawl out from up your own a*seholes, you status-worshipping pseuds.


Ah, a proponent of the 'race to the bottom' are we?

No - just not a proponent of the 'race up the bottom'.

;)

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:25 pm ]
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Surely it's not beyond the wit of man to 'disguise' the cabs to make them more fit into the local environment? They don't have to be oblong grey blocks.

Jon

Author:  rustybucket [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:39 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
Surely it's not beyond the wit of man to 'disguise' the cabs to make them more fit into the local environment? They don't have to be oblong grey blocks.

I thought they were green

:?

Author:  Linux_User [ Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:21 am ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
Surely it's not beyond the wit of man to 'disguise' the cabs to make them more fit into the local environment? They don't have to be oblong grey blocks.

Jon

If you do that for Kensington then you can do it everywhere else too. I don't see why Kensington should get preferential treatment.

Author:  JJW009 [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:32 am ]
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In 50 years time when BT want to take them away and replace them with a microscopic magic dot, there will be outrage that they've become a historic part of the local scenery and should be preserved.

Like the red phone box.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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JJW009 wrote:
In 50 years time when BT want to take them away and replace them with a microscopic magic dot, there will be outrage that they've become a historic part of the local scenery and should be preserved.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Probably.

Author:  belchingmatt [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:48 pm ]
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In Kensington & Chelsea each year there is an exhibition called Masterpiece. Basically the finest of everything on display and for sale. It is held in the grounds of the Royal Chelsea Hospital and consists of many large temporary buildings. Now by themselves the buildings are plain, modern and reasonably unobtrusive, except maybe perhaps for their size. The council will not grant a permit for the exhibition unless the buildings are made to look in character.

This is the result:

Image

Author:  forquare1 [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:01 pm ]
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belchingmatt wrote:
They already have faster and more reliable speeds than a lot of people in rural locations. They should accept the design or go without.


Speaking of rural locations, what about all those pylons that create an eyesore in our great British countryside?

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:03 pm ]
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forquare1 wrote:
belchingmatt wrote:
They already have faster and more reliable speeds than a lot of people in rural locations. They should accept the design or go without.


Speaking of rural locations, what about all those pylons that create an eyesore in our great British countryside?

Are they an eyesore or must we keep the countryside in a permanent state of stasis based on a prewar ideal.

Author:  belchingmatt [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:21 pm ]
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There was a competition last year for a new design of pylon. Won by a Danish company iirc.

When people complain about blights on the landscape, perhaps I'll pay more attention when they give up cars, electricity, trains, running water, and perhaps everything else that requires infrastructure.

Author:  forquare1 [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:24 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
forquare1 wrote:
belchingmatt wrote:
They already have faster and more reliable speeds than a lot of people in rural locations. They should accept the design or go without.


Speaking of rural locations, what about all those pylons that create an eyesore in our great British countryside?

Are they an eyesore or must we keep the countryside in a permanent state of stasis based on a prewar ideal.


Perhaps not an eyesore, but certainly not things of beauty, or in keeping, IMO.

belchingmatt wrote:
There was a competition last year for a new design of pylon. Won by a Danish company iirc.

When people complain about blights on the landscape, perhaps I'll pay more attention when they give up cars, electricity, trains, running water, and perhaps everything else that requires infrastructure.


And this is my point. These grey boxes are needed to support the infrastructure. Put them in and get on with it.

EDIT: Or is this all very much "not in my backyard"...?

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