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Hackers leak 1 million iPhone UDIDs nicked from FBI system

Apparently they have other data tied to the UDID including telephone numbers, names and in some cases even addresses, for a total of 12 million users. Oops.

1) Why did the FBI have this data stored on a poorly secured system?
2) Why did the FBI have this data at all?

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Telephone numbers, names and adresses. :o

Shirley this info can be found in almost any telephone directory. ;)

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Do telephone directories have mobile numbers? Given that there is the ability to phone hack, I'd be concerned as to why they have this info. You don't keep info for the sake of keeping info.

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Telephone numbers, names and adresses. :o
Shirley this info can be found in almost any telephone directory. ;)

As CW says these are mobile numbers - and more specifically a known brand of smartphone numbers - which is potentially much worse than having someone's land line number. And of course in the phone book you can go ex-directory. Plus the question remains - why were the FBI storing the details of 12 million apparently innocent people?


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Plus the question remains - why were the FBI storing the details of 12 million apparently innocent people?


You really need an answer to that?

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jonbwfc wrote:
belchingmatt wrote:
Telephone numbers, names and adresses. :o
Shirley this info can be found in almost any telephone directory. ;)

As CW says these are mobile numbers - and more specifically a known brand of smartphone numbers -


OMG, just imagine the marketing potential!!!

So otherwise, how is this notably news worthy? No mention of account or credit card details being dispersed etc. Landlines can be tracked as well. ;)

I think the bigger issue is how that the FBI got hacked, rather than why a 'Government Agency' held these details. And why should mobile numbers be offered any more protection than a landline? Also, how did the FBI get this information, from hacking Apple or a telco, or by harvesting openly offered info on social networks?

What about other smartphones? Are the FBI only focusing on Apple, or is it just that only the Apple file was found? Perhaps the answer to that only asks more questions...

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the bigger issue is how that the FBI got hacked

The hackers are clever and as always the security is poor. Look at that dude who is gonna get extradited.

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And why should mobile numbers be offered any more protection than a landline?
In this, because the phones connected to the numbers actually store personally identifiable information, as well as other sensitive information that your average landline phone does not.

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belchingmatt wrote:
And why should mobile numbers be offered any more protection than a landline?
In this, because the phones connected to the numbers actually store personally identifiable information, as well as other sensitive information that your average landline phone does not.
Mark

Plus if you know it's a smartphone and you know the OS it's running, that's half the job towards being able to compromise it in some way. If you know (for example) a vulnerability in the iOS messaging client and you know the number of someone's iPhone, you can send them a 'cooked' MMS message and possibly break their phone open and thus allow you to access their info, or indeed do anything you like - an iPhone is actually a lot nearer the PC on your desk than the landline phone sat next to it...

This is not the same as looking up someone in the phone book. Nothing like it at all.


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It's getting interesting...

FBI claim hacker's story is a lie


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