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A teenager has had emergency surgery to remove her stomach after drinking a cocktail containing liquid nitrogen. Lancashire Police say Gaby Scanlon was out with friends in Lancaster last Thursday (4 October) when it happened. The 18-year-old is reported to have become breathless and developed severe stomach pain before being taken to Lancaster Royal Infirmary. Officers say she would have died if doctors had not performed the operation. The woman, from Heysham in Lancashire, was taken from Oscar's wine bar to hospital at 11pm. She was diagnosed with a perforated, or pierced stomach, and is now in a serious but stable condition.

Lancashire Police have not officially named the place where she bought the cocktail, but say Oscar's has stopped selling it. The bar say their "heartfelt best wishes" go to Gaby Scanlon and her family "at this distressing time". A police statement said: "The premises involved have fully co-operated with all agencies and have suspended drinks involving liquid nitrogen. "The investigation is still in its early stages and we are still interviewing witnesses to establish the full facts. The force said they had been warning other bars in the town about what had happened.

Doctor John Ashton, director of public health for Cumbria, said: "This girl is the victim of an irresponsible alcohol industry that's now competing on gimmicks.
"Alcohol itself is a very dangerous thing if improperly handled and liquid nitrogen is a toxic chemical. It destroys human tissue." Gaby Scanlon had been out celebrating her 18th birthday. Liz Nicholls, principal at Ripley St Thomas Church of England Academy, says the teenager is one of their "most hardworking and mature students". In a statement she added: "Our whole school community is shocked and upset at what has happened. "Our thoughts and prayers are with Gaby, her family and her friends who are obviously upset and distressed. "We are pleased to hear that she is making better than expected progress."

If swallowed, liquid nitrogen can cause cold burns to the mouth, throat and stomach, killing the tissue. As the frozen vapour hits the stomach it rapidly warms, releasing large volumes of air which can burst the stomach. Doctors performed emergency surgery to remove Gaby Scanlon's stomach, an operation known as a total gastrectomy. During the operation the stomach is cut out and the remaining two tubes to and from the stomach, the oesophagus and the small bowel, are connected. People who have had a gastrectomy will still be able to lead a normal life and eat and drink regular food but they will need to eat smaller amounts and take vitamin supplements to make sure they get enough nourishment.

Heston Blumenthal has popularised the use of liquid nitrogen in cooking, using it to make food including ice cream. In cocktails it is usually used to freeze ingredients, to chill glasses or as a visual gimmick. It is also used in medicine to remove unwanted skin, warts and pre-cancerous cells, while in industry it can be used as a coolant for things like computers. Additionally it has been used in cryogenics, where scientists find what happens to materials at very cold temperatures. Liquid nitrogen boils and vaporizes at -196C and freezes at -210C.

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Maybe I'm a bit behind the times but what's wrong with consuming alcohol in the "normal" fashion? Surely you'd have thought people were aware of the damages of liquid nitrogen? Or have they been confusing it with dry ice? We routinely use liquid nitrogen to freeze off moles and other bits of tissue in minor surgery.

I suspect there would have been thermal damage to the stomach. I imagine the perforation was caused by the nitrogen expanding as it became gaseous.

Hope she makes a good recovery.

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You wouldn't drink something that was 200 degrees C... so why would you assume drinking something at -200 degrees C is safe to drink?!

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so why would you assume drinking something at -200 degrees C is safe to drink?!

I'd say it's pretty naturally to assume it wasn't going to explode your insides out - regardless of whether it's sensible to drink these things, you'd assume that it's at least relatively safe in small doses.

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Heston Blumenthal has popularised the use of liquid nitrogen in cooking, using it to make food including ice cream. In cocktails it is usually used to freeze ingredients, to chill glasses or as a visual gimmick. It is also used in medicine to remove unwanted skin, warts and pre-cancerous cells, while in industry it can be used as a coolant for things like computers. Additionally it has been used in cryogenics, where scientists find what happens to materials at very cold temperatures. Liquid nitrogen boils and vaporizes at -196C and freezes at -210C.

Heston Blumenthal again! It might be practical for commercial cooks but not the domestic cook. It really should have a license to be able to use it.

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...you'd assume that it's at least relatively safe in small doses.

Really? I can't say trying that sort of thing would be my cup of (iced) tea.

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so why would you assume drinking something at -200 degrees C is safe to drink?!

I'd say it's pretty naturally to assume it wasn't going to explode your insides out - regardless of whether it's sensible to drink these things, you'd assume that it's at least relatively safe in small doses.

It can never be safe. It will cause freeze burns. Even small localised burns can be problematic at times.

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There's something we're not being told about this story.

If (for some random reason) it was being added to a drink to produce a mist effect (something you'd use dry ice for normally) then the amount you'd need (less than 5ml) would heat up & evaporate within a matter of seconds.

How did she get hold of the drink that quickly or did someone severely fcuk up the measurements?

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Even given the presence of alcohol to act as an anti-freeze, you'd assume if they put way too much in it'd just have frozen the drink itself solid. My guess is she drank it in one go as a birthday dare kind of thing, so the nitrogen didn't get a chance to evaporate.

Either way, I think the sales of that kind of cocktail may take a bit of a dip...

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Either way, I think the sales of that kind of cocktail may take a bit of a dip...

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We don't actually know if she knew there was liquid nitrogen in the shot, so you can't necessarily blame the girl.

I'm surprised Trading Standards let this sort of thing go on though.

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We don't actually know if she knew there was liquid nitrogen in the shot, so you can't necessarily blame the girl.

I'm surprised Trading Standards let this sort of thing go on though.

Well they may simply were not informed. Though the biggest problem for the bar might be their insurance. They will clearly have to pay a substantial sum out in settlement, and the insurers may drop coverage for the bar which will mean that it will close with out public liability coverage. This will probably kill off this drink at all other bars as insurers check what the bars are up to.

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I must confess I am struggling to work out how any actual LN2 could have gotten to the stomach in the first place. Given how hot, relatively speaking, the human body is in relation to LN2 I would have thought it would have evapourated long before it got that far down, you'd have to have a sizeable quantity poured down your throat for it to get to the stomach and that would have given you much bigger problems (like your mouth and throat freezing solid) before it got the stomach.

The other possibility is that a sufficient quantity of N2 dissolved in the cokctail when it was being mixed that it caused a massive increase in volume when it outgassed from the cocktail. The process would have been a lot slower than LN2 evapourating (relatively speaking at least) and could explain the stomach pain and perforation that occured.

In any case, a pretty horiffic incident.

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When you drop liquid nitrogen onto a warm surface, it skates around for ages in little balls. I've seen people put them on their tongue without injury. It's perfectly possibly to drink the little balls before they evaporate.

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When you drop liquid nitrogen onto a warm surface, it skates around for ages in little balls. I've seen people put them on their tongue without injury. It's perfectly possibly to drink the little balls before they evaporate.

So where is your stomach? In a lab jar?


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