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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Another Day, Another $678 Million Stealth Jet Wrecked

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/f-22-crashe/

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The Air Force admitted losing two of its 184 — make that 182 — top-of-the-line F-22 Raptor stealth fighters on Thursday. It was one of the worst days yet in what’s turning out to be a bad year for the pricey, radar-evading jet built by Lockheed Martin.

At 3:30 local time on Thursday an F-22, apparently belonging to the 325th Wing, a training unit based at Tyndall Air Force Base in the Florida panhandle, plunged into the ground in a wooded area inside the base perimeter near Highway 98, sparking a small fire.

The pilot ejected safely. “The cause of the crash is still under investigation and additional details will be provided as soon as they become available,” the flying branch said in a statement.

The same day, the Air Force copped to an earlier accident involving the stealth fighter, which costs as much as $678 million per copy (depending on how you crunch the numbers). On May 31, a student pilot on his second solo Raptor flight at Tyndall neglected to power up his jet’s engines fast enough after retracting the landing gear.

“Without sufficient thrust, the aircraft settled back to the runway, landing on its underside,” the Air Force explained in its official report, released on Thursday.

In June, 325th Wing spokesman Herman Bell said the incident would likely be categorized as a “class A” accident costing more than $2 million to fix.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Day, Another $678 Million Stealth Jet Wrecked

Amnesia10 wrote:
On May 31, a student pilot on his second solo Raptor flight at Tyndall neglected to power up his jet’s engines fast enough after retracting the landing gear.

“Without sufficient thrust, the aircraft settled back to the runway, landing on its underside,” the Air Force explained in its official report, released on Thursday.

:lol: . I figure that guy fails the course.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Day, Another $678 Million Stealth Jet Wrecked

jonbwfc wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
On May 31, a student pilot on his second solo Raptor flight at Tyndall neglected to power up his jet’s engines fast enough after retracting the landing gear.

“Without sufficient thrust, the aircraft settled back to the runway, landing on its underside,” the Air Force explained in its official report, released on Thursday.

:lol: . I figure that guy fails the course.

Starts making payments at $10 a week for how many years?

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Day, Another $678 Million Stealth Jet Wrecked

Depends. If it was a technical fault with the aircraft he could get away scott free.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Day, Another $678 Million Stealth Jet Wrecked

l3v1ck wrote:
Depends. If it was a technical fault with the aircraft he could get away scott free.

Also he may have been put in the aircraft too soon, again not his fault.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Day, Another $678 Million Stealth Jet Wrecked

Amnesia10 wrote:
Also he may have been put in the aircraft too soon, again not his fault.


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a student pilot on his second solo Raptor flight


You assume he got it into the air safely the first time, or he wouldn't have got a second chance. I do wonder though what they're doing putting student pilots in Raptors at all. You'd assume it would be better to qualify them on easier older jets - even something like an F-16 for cripe's sake - and let them train on the new stuff after they've had more than a couple of hours solo under their belt. Unless by 'student' they mean 'qualified USAF pilot being trained specifically on the raptor', although it's an odd turn of phrase if they do.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Day, Another $678 Million Stealth Jet Wrecked

I would imagine a qualified pilot who is in training for the new aircraft. Though the aircraft has had a lot of faults so I will guess the blame lies with the aircraft rather than the pilot.

Author:  Linux_User [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Another Day, Another $678 Million Stealth Jet Wrecked

jonbwfc wrote:
Unless by 'student' they mean 'qualified USAF pilot being trained specifically on the raptor'

That was my first thought.

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