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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:53 am ]
Post subject:  Sally Bercow Names Teen In New Twitter Row

http://news.sky.com/story/1013687/sally ... witter-row

I'm pretty sure she was named at the time, her photo was certainly everywhere :?

I'll be interested to see how this Twitter/McAlpine thing pans out. I seriously doubt judges will be stupid enough to set precedents without clear intent in some of the tweets. And many of the rest are highly arguable IMO.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sally Bercow Names Teen In New Twitter Row

While she might have mentioned the name it was absolutely everywhere. I was sent jokes with her name in regard to problems with Apple Maps. This was a missing teen and her name was all over the place. I doubt that she could be found guilty under the circumstances. It was public knowledge.

Author:  Paul1965 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:54 am ]
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Sally Bercow always seems to be in trouble. I don't know why she can't engage her brain before speaking/tweeting.

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:31 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
While she might have mentioned the name it was absolutely everywhere. I was sent jokes with her name in regard to problems with Apple Maps. This was a missing teen and her name was all over the place. I doubt that she could be found guilty under the circumstances. It was public knowledge.


Quote:
A court made what is known as a Section 39 Order under the Children and Young Persons Act 1933, which forbids naming the girl involved in the case.
The order states: "Any publication by whatever media in breach of this order is punishable by a fine in the sum of £5,000."


She's guilty as hell. She named the child after the court order was issued and as ignorance is no defence I'm waiting with baited breath for her to be found guilty (again).

Author:  JJW009 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:47 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
ignorance is no defence

I've always thought it totally unreasonable and actually immoral that you can be prosecuted for breaking a law that you didn't know existed. It's extreme ignorance on behalf of those making the law to assume that everyone automatically instantly knows about it.

Seriously; if you have no clue that there is some court order in force forbidding something that everyone else is doing, then surely that should be a good enough defence? It's absolutely obvious that no one was aware it was criminal, so it's absolutely unjustifiable to issue anything more than a warning clarifying the legal position.

If someone then goes on to repeat the offence, having now been informed that it actually is an offence, then that's a different matter.

Author:  steve74 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:11 pm ]
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Have I missed something, it was all over the TV and press months ago wasn't it?

Author:  veato [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sally Bercow Names Teen In New Twitter Row

I'm confused. Is this {insert name here} that ran away with her Maths teacher to France. As in the same person that had her name and image all over the media including here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9561168/Teenage-schoolgirl-15-runs-away-with-30-year-old-teacher.html

and here:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/24/14063433-police-uk-teen-thought-to-have-run-away-to-france-with-her-math-teacher?lite

and here:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/megan-stammers-maths-teacher-30-1341525

etc, etc, etc

Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sally Bercow Names Teen In New Twitter Row

+1. This is completely confusing. I knew her name because it had been plastered all over the media. Now a silly law has been brought into place after she was identified? Complete and utter nonsense.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sally Bercow Names Teen In New Twitter Row

veato wrote:

I think it is.

Author:  veato [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sally Bercow Names Teen In New Twitter Row

Right. So not only has everyone already seen her name but it's still out there for all to see with a simple Google search. I feel like a boat image could follow this post. I'm not sure what kind of boat though. Something big and possibly sinking. Yeah, a sink-boat. Someone should make an image macro of a sinking boat to represent something really stupid happening on the internet.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sally Bercow Names Teen In New Twitter Row

I have a feeling that the police disclosed her name because she was missing and there was a recent case of a missing girl being found dead in a bin somewhere. So they were playing safe to find her as fast as possible.

Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:38 pm ]
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^^^That was my impression too. She was named to maximise publicity and hence chances of finding her. I still don't see any reason why she should be "protected" though.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sally Bercow Names Teen In New Twitter Row

cloaked_wolf wrote:
^^^That was my impression too. She was named to maximise publicity and hence chances of finding her. I still don't see any reason why she should be "protected" though.

I think that the only reason is that her teacher is about to be prosecuted for her abduction. The girl was love with him so hardly forced though he could have done more to stop her.

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