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The end for Turbo-Nutters
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Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  The end for Turbo-Nutters
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Broadwell, the 14nm successor to next year’s Haswell CPU, will essentially shut out the enthusiast. Motherboards will still be available, but the CPUs that come with them will be soldered down. . .

. . . since they nearly destroyed that nascent market with Nehalem, and have since progressively removed any features the enthusiast cares about while jacking the cost to buy them back to untenable levels, enthusiasts have become an endangered species. Unfortunately Intel doesn’t care about the enthusiast


So, anyone here planning to over-clock into the next decade? I've not bothered for years, since my ancient Duo is still fast enough for most of what I need. Most of the computers I've bought in the last 5 years or so have actually been low powered devices powered by Atoms and the like. If I ever buy another one, it's likely to be a Pi!
Author:  pcernie [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:42 am ]
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Could this give AMD a bigger niche to play in, or are they too far gone now? Did I read there that the overclockers are using ARM chips now?

Anyway, I predict US law suits at the very least ;)
Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The end for Turbo-Nutters
pcernie wrote:
Did I read there that the overclockers are using ARM chips now?

It does say that in the article I linked to. Some impressive results, but not relevant to the Desktop at the moment.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:50 am ]
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JJW009 wrote:
So, anyone here planning to over-clock into the next decade?
I haven't overclocked since my motherboard blew up in my last desktop a few years ago. Since then I've only had laptops, so overclocking hasn't been an option.
Author:  Linux_User [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:11 am ]
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The last CPU I overclocked was my Phenom II.

At the moment I'm running an i7 3770 and I won't be overclocking it.

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Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:16 am ]
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pcernie wrote:
Could this give AMD a bigger niche to play in, or are they too far gone now? Did I read there that the overclockers are using ARM chips now?

I think it's Intel getting cocky. The think (quite understandably so) that AMD CPU's are so poor at the moment, that people will still buy Intel even if they lock them in with 'features' that they don't want. I doubt you'd see this if AMD CPU's were more competative.
Author:  big_D [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:12 am ]
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I've never overclocked.

And I stopped building my own machines back in 2004.
Author:  veato [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:12 am ]
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My last overclocking rig was a Q6600 I got rid of when I bough the iMac (2011). Even if I bought a gaming rig today I'd be happy with an Intel 'i' at stock speeds to be honest.

That said I'd still prefer to buy my motherboard and CPU independently and have the option to upgrade one without the other.
Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The end for Turbo-Nutters
JJW009 wrote:
pcernie wrote:
Did I read there that the overclockers are using ARM chips now?

It does say that in the article I linked to. Some impressive results, but not relevant to the Desktop at the moment.


People are over clocking their Raspberry Pis, which to me sounds RISCy.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:18 am ]
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big_D wrote:
I've never overclocked.

And I stopped building my own machines back in 2004.

Same here. It does appeal to a minority but suspect that some manufacturers will be allowed to order different motherboards that have better performance.
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:20 am ]
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I would have thought that there would be a natural decline in overclocking as machines became vastly more powerful for the software they run on anyway. I recall AMD giving Intel a run for their money back with their Athlon XP processors. What happened to AMD after that?
Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:38 am ]
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cloaked_wolf wrote:
What happened to AMD after that?

They were out-gunned. It's a horrendously expensive task to design and fabricate new powerful processors.

However, I do think they could make a bit of a comeback by pricing clockable processors at the budget end.
Author:  Spreadie [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The end for Turbo-Nutters
I still overclock. My venerable i7 920 is running at 4.2GHz and has hit 4.63GHz under bench conditions.

If Intel start locking down integrated processors to stock speeds, hopefully AMD will carry a torch for us a little longer - if they can afford to be interested in niche markets. Although, the prices will probably take a hike skywards.

Maybe I can try overclocking my toaster or microwave, to get my fix.
Author:  pcernie [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The end for Turbo-Nutters
My one and only OC was an E6300 and that was only cos I could :oops:
Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The end for Turbo-Nutters
cloaked_wolf wrote:
I would have thought that there would be a natural decline in overclocking as machines became vastly more powerful for the software they run on anyway.
Plus modern CPU's overclock themselves when only a few cores are being used.
cloaked_wolf wrote:
I recall AMD giving Intel a run for their money back with their Athlon XP processors. What happened to AMD after that?
Athlon 64. Those trounced Intel too. What happened next was Intel went back to the drawing board and started from scratch while AMD rested on their laurels and only made minor changes for the next 7/8 years.
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