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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Nicole Kidman refused to say 'n-word', co-star reveals

Good for her

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Actress Nicole Kidman refused to use an offensive racial epithet in a film when requested to do so by its director, her British co-star has revealed.

Speaking on Radio 4's Front Row, David Oyelowo said the Oscar-winning star had been asked to say "the n-word" in The Paperboy by director Lee Daniels.

"She flatly refused," said Oyelowo, who is of Nigerian descent.

"She felt that was a bridge too far for her and I really respect her for doing that," the former Spooks star went on.

Kidman, 45, received a Golden Globe nomination for her work in The Paperboy, which is released in the UK on 15 March.

Set in Florida at the end of the 1960s, the film sees two reporters, played by Oyelowo and Matthew McConaughey, work to have a murderer's conviction quashed.

Their efforts are both helped and hindered by Kidman's character, a blowsy hairdresser who has won the trust of the felon through sexually explicit correspondence.

"Anyone who sees that movie will see Nicole Kidman did virtually everything else that Lee Daniels asked her to do," Oyelowo was heard telling Mark Lawson on Wednesday's Front Row.

"But she would not do that [say the n-word]."

Author:  timark_uk [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:33 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Why 'good for her'?
If it's in character, of the time and not being used purely just as a shock tactic, why not say it?

I had a very similar conversation about this on Fb when I posted the Sam Jackson interview where he asked the person interviewing him to say the word.

In the right context, there is nothing actually wrong with saying the word nigger.

Mark

Author:  brataccas [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:56 pm ]
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Author:  timark_uk [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:02 pm ]
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brataccas wrote:
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And that, ladies and gentlemen (and bratty), sums up my entire post in one gaudy little gif.
Merely saying nigger is not racist.

Mark

Author:  JJW009 [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:20 pm ]
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Seriously, how many people would be personally offended at the use of the word in a film? In a film where, I'm guessing, we're probably not supposed to like the character saying it.

I've never really understood the concept of rude, racist or taboo words. It's just bloody stupid. Surely if you tell someone, for example, that they are a "fat, ugly, lazy waste of space" it's just as hurtful as saying "f*cking lard-arse honkey c*nt face", if not more so, despite being perfectly acceptable.

In most cases, it's the way in which you spit out the words that really expresses hatred or disgust. People don't like to think that other people hate them or find them disgusting.

Additionally, the more personalised you make the insult to encompass an individual's true weaknesses and insecurities, the more hurtful they will find it. Using generic terms like "the n word" displays no imagination or effort and is unlikely, in itself, to hurt someone any more than saying "I hate you". I don't imagine there are many people these days who are so insecure purely about their colour.

A properly hurtful insult might be "Your mother is an 'amster and your father smells of elderberries." - especially if it's true. Something like that should never be broadcast; obviously.

Author:  brataccas [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:25 pm ]
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best use of nigger is in fawlty towers tbh but I think they say "wog" too :shock:

Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:30 pm ]
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It's a bit like making a holocaust movie and not having the Nazi's being nasty to the Jews as it's not acceptable today. :roll:

(Anyone seen The Pianist? Now there's an emotionally powerful film.)

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:41 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
It's a bit like making a holocaust movie and not having the Nazi's being nasty to the Jews as it's not acceptable today. :roll:

(Anyone seen The Pianist? Now there's an emotionally powerful film.)

Not all Germans were anti semetic, but enough were.

I can understand why she would not want to use it. It is still an offensive word to blacks. Therefore I can understand why she would refuse to say it. Also it was not her who made this public. She was not seeking publicity for doing this.

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:54 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Also it was not her who made this public. She was not seeking publicity for doing this.


im always amazed at your naivety. If she and/or her publicist didnt want it out we would never now.

Author:  timark_uk [ Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:57 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Also it was not her who made this public. She was not seeking publicity for doing this.
Who said otherwise? Certainly nobody in this thread.
Also, saying the word is "offensive to blacks" is wrong.
Yes, it may be offensive to some - in context, but simply blanket saying it's offensive is just as offensive.

Mark

Author:  big_D [ Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:11 am ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
It's a bit like making a holocaust movie and not having the Nazi's being nasty to the Jews as it's not acceptable today. :roll:

(Anyone seen The Pianist? Now there's an emotionally powerful film.)

Exactly.

This was a historical piece, so the character would have probably said it. I can understand that she would be uncomfortable with it, but looking at the character she was playing, that would probably be what she had said.

Amnesia10 wrote:
Not all Germans were anti semetic, but enough were.

Not all Germans were members of the National Socialist party, the same as not all Brits are members of the Conservative Party, even though they are in power.

Likewise, not all NS members were voluntarily members, they had to be members or were pushed into the party by parents and peer pressure.

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I can understand why she would not want to use it. It is still an offensive word to blacks. Therefore I can understand why she would refuse to say it. Also it was not her who made this public. She was not seeking publicity for doing this.

I can't. It would raise awareness / keep awareness alive of how bad it was back then.

As George Santayana said, "those that cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

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