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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

The US space agency (Nasa) has reported that its Curiosity rover has made another significant discovery on Mars.

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The robot has drilled into a rock that contains clay minerals - an indication of formation in, or substantial alteration by, neutral water.

Scientists say the find is one more step towards showing conditions on the Red Planet in the distant past could have supported life.

Many rocks studied previously were probably deposited in acidic water.

While this would not have precluded the possibility of micro-organisms taking hold on Mars, it would have been more challenging, scientists believe.

Identifying clays shows there were at least some locations on the planet billions of years ago where environments would have been much more favourable.

"We have found a habitable environment that is so benign and supportive of life that probably if this water was around and you had been there, you would have been able to drink it," said John Grotzinger, Curiosity's project scientist.

The rover made the assessment after studying a powdered sample drilled from a fine-grained mudstone at its exploration site in Gale Crater, a deep impact bowl on Mars' equator.

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

I await the discovery of fossils with keen anticipation now. If they find simple organisms, that would be good. I’d really love it if they found evidence of a more complex creature, but I expect that’s just me wildly speculating. Current thought is that micro organisms would be the most prevalent form of life in the universe, so that is what is being looked for.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

The fact that they have found clays means that water existed in large quantities on Mars, at some point but it the cooling of the core happened too soon for life to progress from the simplest unicellular life.

Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

paulzolo wrote:
I await the discovery of fossils with keen anticipation now. If they find simple organisms, that would be good. I’d really love it if they found evidence of a more complex creature, but I expect that’s just me wildly speculating. Current thought is that micro organisms would be the most prevalent form of life in the universe, so that is what is being looked for.

If the rover had landed on Earth today, it might never have found fossils. Even if they are there, it's going to take one hell of a stroke of luck to find them near the surface.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

JJW009 wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
I await the discovery of fossils with keen anticipation now. If they find simple organisms, that would be good. I’d really love it if they found evidence of a more complex creature, but I expect that’s just me wildly speculating. Current thought is that micro organisms would be the most prevalent form of life in the universe, so that is what is being looked for.

If the rover had landed on Earth today, it might never have found fossils. Even if they are there, it's going to take one hell of a stroke of luck to find them near the surface.

It would be hard to find intelligent life as well. :lol:

Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

paulzolo wrote:
I await the discovery of fossils with keen anticipation now.
The problem is that even if there was advanced life, you need the right atmosphere for them to have 'hard parts' that can easily be fossilised. That why we have very little from the pre-Cambrian even though Cambrian fossils are highly developed.

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

I was being mildly facetious about fossils, you know. However, while we can probably rule out the bones of dead creatures, they may find imprints of simpler life forms if they get very, very lucky.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

With soft bodied creatures the chance of being fossilised will be minimal to start with. Though they could be lucky because the martian surface has not been recycled like Earth down subduction zones.

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:26 pm ]
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Fossils can be the impressions left behind by an organism - not just the actual organism itself. Leaf imprints, for example.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

They can be, but it's less common.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mars rover Curiosity sees key water indicator

paulzolo wrote:
Fossils can be the impressions left behind by an organism - not just the actual organism itself. Leaf imprints, for example.

But for unicellular life it becomes very hard and there is only one rover on mars and thousands of palaeontologists here on earth looking for them. Though I suspect that they will find them first through the creation of molecules that can only come from lifeforms. That would be easier to detect.

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