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'[LIFTED] 'em and their law'

DWP seeks law change

Short version : The DWP has been found guilty by the high court of illegally coercing people into 'work fare' schemes where they are in fact not paid to work at all. The High court ruled the DWP should pay the people who it had treated so unfairly a proper wage for the work they did. The total sum paid out would be in the region of £130m, to a couple of hundred thousand people.

Is the DWP going to stick to the rules, pay the money, admit it made a mistake and change it's procedures in the future? No. The coalition is going to retrospectively change the law (by rushing a bill through parliament) which means that the thing the High Court ruled as illegal wasn't in fact illegal at all. Their justification - 'To protect the economy'. That would be the economy they've been in charge of for the last two years, which is now even more buggered than it was when they took over.

The cheated at the game. They got caught. So they're going to change the rules of the game and claim they weren't in fact cheating at all.

What a pack of charlatans. What a bunch of incompetent, self serving idiots. What an enormous pack of catastrophic [LIFTED]s. How on earth can they expect anyone else to hold the rule of law and the values of society in anything less than contempt when they treat it in such an utterly disgraceful way themselves.


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We're all doomed I tell you.

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They are certainly living up to their new title of meddling amateurs. They should have been paid minimum wage at least and then they get the pleasure of collecting a wage packet as well. If they really want people to discover that work pays then they should be paid so they can see how much they would get and when. That way people would have an incentive to go to work, as the transition to actually working if they stayed on would be minimal. Though I suspect that there simply are not the jobs out there for everyone.

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And Labour have said they will support this back-dating of the law too. :roll:

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And Labour have said they will support this back-dating of the law too. :roll:

They are losing the plot as well. :roll:

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They're all a bunch of crooks really.

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I'm not sure which is of greater concern - the fact that they are doing this, or that it no longer surprises me.

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its the latter. As Orwell has it.


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They're all a bunch of crooks really.

Which is why UKIP are doing well in the polls. The average working man is better represented by the BNP than Labour right now, which is appalling.


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One can only hope that the unelected Lords, as increasingly seems to be the case, decide to put the breaks on this one to give people time to get properly cross enough that someone in the coalition flinches. I will not be holding my breath mind.

I'd be in favour of changing the law retrospectively to comprehensively nuke some PFI deals (Peterborough hospital I'm looking at you) but I don't see that happening any time soon either.

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this has happened before
an instants, road fund tax to vehicle excise duty

reason, they no longer have to fund the roads

the biggest benefit scroungers that we have are in that building called parliament

more of them should be convicted of defrauding the nation and sent down for a very long jail term (sic)

but back to the point
if it doesn’t suit parliament it will just change the laws so it does
so much for an independent justice system

enforcing laws by parliament but if they differ, changed by parliament

remember, this is within the rules
welcome to the (so called) free world ...

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One can only hope that the unelected Lords, as increasingly seems to be the case, decide to put the breaks on this one to give people time to get properly cross enough that someone in the coalition flinches. I will not be holding my breath mind.

I'd be in favour of changing the law retrospectively to comprehensively nuke some PFI deals (Peterborough hospital I'm looking at you) but I don't see that happening any time soon either.

I do have more faith in our unelected peers than I do in our elected overlords. I have no problems with hereditary peers who work more than 100 days a year rather than the few who fly in from Jersey claim the daily allowance then go off and have lunch and work for someone else in the city.

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In all honesty, doesn't surprise me. I remember when they redefined a pothole to reduce payouts. The Govts are all so [LIFTED] corrupt, it's ridiculous. I wish the Queen would dissolve Parliament.

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In all honesty, doesn't surprise me. I remember when they redefined a pothole to reduce payouts. The Govts are all so [LIFTED] corrupt, it's ridiculous. I wish the Queen would dissolve Parliament.

While she technically has the power to do so, she has to wait for advice from Cameron before doing so. I suspect that he will drag it out as long as possible to get as much opportunity of milking his failure once he is no longer PM. That will probably be 2015/16 when they are booted out at the next election. I think that there might even be a Labour landslide, purely because the economy will not have improved and the blame it on Labour excuse will look very weak. Though I doubt that Labour will do any better, mainly because they will not address the real problem in the economy, which is private debt. Flooding the insolvent banks with trillions in excess liquidity to solve a debt crisis is not going to work. Until we have had an Icelandic moment and allowed the debts to be reduced significantly there will be no sustainable recovery. All I can see is the next twenty years of stagnation with us going in and out of recession on a regular basis.

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MrStevenRogers wrote:
this has happened before
an instants, road fund tax to vehicle excise duty

reason, they no longer have to fund the roads


From introduction to 1937, income from vehicle licensing was paid into a "road fund" to help pay for road construction. There was a lot of major road construction and bypasses built during that period. Since 1937, income has gone into the general taxation pot.

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