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Author:  Paul1965 [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Global internet slows after DDoS attack

From the BBC:

Quote:
The internet around the world has been slowed down in what security experts are describing as the biggest cyber-attack of its kind in history. A row between a spam-fighting group and hosting firm has sparked retaliation attacks affecting the wider internet.

Spamhaus, a group based in both London and Geneva, is a non-profit organisation which aims to help email providers filter out spam and other unwanted content. Recently, Spamhaus blocked servers maintained by Cyberbunker, a Dutch web host which states it will host anything with the exception of child pornography or terrorism-related material.

Mr Linford* said the attack's power would be strong enough to take down government internet infrastructure. If you aimed this at Downing Street they would be down instantly," he said. "They would be completely off the internet."

He added: "These attacks are peaking at 300 gb/s (gigabits per second). Normally when there are attacks against major banks, we're talking about 50 gb/s."


*Chief executive for Spamhaus

More here.

Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:33 pm ]
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I really detest spam filters. There's no such thing as zero false positives, so some important mail will always be lost when using systems primarily based on guesswork - or "heuristics", as it's sometimes known. The combination of permitting anonymous email, and then trying to filter out the bad ones is inherently flawed.

What really gets my goat is that we've had the solutions available for over a decade. If everyone just used authenticated mail the problem would be pretty much eliminated over night, but we don't even have to go that far. Simply implementing SPF correctly would be a good start, but even my bank fails to do this resulting in some of their emails going into my spam. Some DNS providers such as 1&1 don't even support it! Then there's SAV which some argue is an even better solution.

That said, I have nothing really against Spamhaus. It's the unintelligent application of the data they provide which is the main problem.

If the mail relay you use gets listed, then good luck fixing that. Some people will receive the emails you send, and some wont. It depends on how crude their filtering is, and there's probably nothing you can do to fix it. Except a DDOS attack on Spamhaus.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:37 pm ]
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I noticed it, I thought that my connection was slow. I did a test with my iPhone and even that was down to 500 kbps even over 3G. It is now back up to 14.31 Mbps. At the time I had no idea what was causing it.

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Global internet slows after DDoS attack

Not been noticing any slowdowns here.

Author:  pcernie [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:48 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
Not been noticing any slowdowns here.


+1, even in work earlier.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:16 am ]
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pcernie wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
Not been noticing any slowdowns here.


+1, even in work earlier.

Over all the other rants you have about the people you work with then I doubt it even registered. :lol:

Author:  AlunD [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Global internet slows after DDoS attack

I've been migrated about 100 web sites between 2 datacentres over the last few days - oh it caused some fun :roll: .

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:49 am ]
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AlunD wrote:
I've been migrated about 100 web sites between 2 datacentres over the last few days - oh it caused some fun :roll: .

If the web has been slow that has probably meant it has taken a lot longer than you planned?

Author:  AlunD [ Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:38 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
AlunD wrote:
I've been migrated about 100 web sites between 2 datacentres over the last few days - oh it caused some fun :roll: .

If the web has been slow that has probably meant it has taken a lot longer than you planned?

not particularly but all sorts of time out issues and applications being blocked.

Author:  JJW009 [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:57 pm ]
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http://gizmodo.com/5992652

"it's just not true"

Author:  belchingmatt [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:04 am ]
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I doubt I would notice anything here either way. :roll:

Author:  big_D [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:25 am ]
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I haven't noticed anything here.

Although they are now saying that an anchor in Egypt caused problems there and I think Italy (or somewhere in the Med, I was walking the dog when I heard it) had another anchor chew through one of their underwater cables...

Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:08 pm ]
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There are dozens of lines crossing the major seas and rivers, and never just one crossing any given waterway or ocean. Seriously, 'the internet' is almost stupidly resilient at the really high level. It would take something verging on a world war to cut the parts of the civilised world off from each other. And the amount of traffic the DDOS is supposed to have caused is a slow Sunday morning, not anything the major hubs can't deal with. Maybe SpamHaus themselves will have a problem which could mess up email flow (a lot of places use SpamHaus for RDNS checks for blacklist checks , and if it's not responding it could slow the rate of email flow down somewhat) but other than that? Barely even a ripple on the pond.

Author:  BigRedX [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Global internet slows after DDoS attack

Several of the sites that I visit, use Cloud Flare as their protection, and all were slow at best when they weren't completely off-line during the recent attack. Other than those I didn't notice any other problems while browsing.

Author:  JJW009 [ Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:12 pm ]
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BigRedX wrote:
Several of the sites that I visit, use Cloud Flare as their protection, and all were slow at best when they weren't completely off-line during the recent attack. Other than those I didn't notice any other problems while browsing.

Interesting. I'd have no idea who uses CloudFlare, but that seems perfectly likely.

So far from being an advert to use them, it sounds like a good reason not to!

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