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Author:  paulzolo [ Tue May 07, 2013 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
Quote:
The former Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lord Lawson, has called for the UK to leave the European Union.

Writing in the Times, he said British economic gains from an exit "would substantially outweigh the costs".

He predicted any changes achieved by David Cameron's attempts to renegotiate the terms of the UK's relations with the EU would be "inconsequential".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22429790

Another Tory banging on about Europe.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Tue May 07, 2013 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
The only two mainstream parties (ie the top 4) that are united on their viewpoint on the EU are the Lib's (in) and UKIP (out).
Labour and the Conservatives are just as split except the Conservatives are more publically split.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue May 07, 2013 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
For many it is not as simple as a straight in out choice. I would prefer to stay in but recognise that there need to be changes in the way the EU is run and guided.


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Author:  JJW009 [ Tue May 07, 2013 3:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
Amnesia10 wrote:
For many it is not as simple as a straight in out choice. I would prefer to stay in but recognise that there need to be changes in the way the EU is run and guided.

Any vote would be inevitably be weighted in such a way that was essencially meaningless to most people.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue May 07, 2013 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
JJW009 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
For many it is not as simple as a straight in out choice. I would prefer to stay in but recognise that there need to be changes in the way the EU is run and guided.

Any vote would be inevitably be weighted in such a way that was essencially meaningless to most people.

It also depends on the phrasing of the question. Now while there are many problems with the EU and the commission I actually have more faith in it maintaining rights than in our government. So I would vote in favour of staying in. Though it does depend on how that question is phrased.
Author:  big_D [ Wed May 08, 2013 4:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
Well, there goes my job then, and my house... I hope I am married before they make a decision!
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed May 08, 2013 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
big_D wrote:
Well, there goes my job then, and my house... I hope I am married before they make a decision!

On another similar thread I did joke about membership of the EU allowed us to get shot of you! Exit would mean that we would have to take you back.;) In which case shouldn't you be allowed to vote in any referendum that impacted you?


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Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed May 08, 2013 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
Amnesia10 wrote:
In which case shouldn't you be allowed to vote in any referendum that impacted you?

Tell it to the Scots.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Wed May 08, 2013 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
jonbwfc wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
In which case shouldn't you be allowed to vote in any referendum that impacted you?

Tell it to the Scots.

im surprised the SNP havent campaigned to allow the English to have a vote, then Scotlands independance would be ensured :lol:
Author:  TheFrenchun [ Wed May 08, 2013 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
big_D wrote:
Well, there goes my job then, and my house... I hope I am married before they make a decision!

Same here I guess.
:x
Author:  JJW009 [ Wed May 08, 2013 2:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
big_D wrote:
Well, there goes my job then, and my house... I hope I am married before they make a decision!

I expect you can convince them you are German really. There must be some kind of immigration procedure for non-EU citizens?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed May 08, 2013 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
JJW009 wrote:
big_D wrote:
Well, there goes my job then, and my house... I hope I am married before they make a decision!

I expect you can convince them you are German really. There must be some kind of immigration procedure for non-EU citizens?

Possibly some history test that even most locals would not pass?


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Author:  pcernie [ Sun May 12, 2013 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
Michael Gove would vote for Britain to leave the EU

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22500121
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun May 12, 2013 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
Which is as strong an argument to stay in it as I can think of.
Author:  pcernie [ Sun May 12, 2013 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lord Lawson calls for UK to exit EU
jonbwfc wrote:
Which is as strong an argument to stay in it as I can think of.


That thought had crossed my mind but I'll decide when the vote happens. Or not :lol:
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