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Author:  pcernie [ Wed May 08, 2013 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Age of consent should be 13 says idiot
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22459815

She has to be working an angle or trying to justify something that happened... or something.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu May 09, 2013 1:08 am ]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Age_of_Consent_-_Global.svg
Just to inform discussion.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 09, 2013 1:17 am ]
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pcernie wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22459815

She has to be working an angle or trying to justify something that happened... or something.


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She said that "touching a 17-year-old's breast, kissing a 13-year-old, or putting one's hand up a 16-year-old's skirt" are not crimes comparable to gang rapes and murders and "anyone suggesting otherwise has lost touch with reality".

The NSPCC described crimes such as Stuart Hall's as "incredibly serious" and said that "to minimise and trivialise the impact of these offences for victims in this way is all but denying that they have in fact suffered abuse at all.

We have no idea what actually has happened in many of these cases. Though at the moment we should not lump any of these cases with Gary Glitter right away. Though lowering the age of consent is not a good move.


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Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Thu May 09, 2013 6:14 am ]
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There's a difference between rape and consensual sex. Sex with a child under the age of 13 is statutory rape irrespective of whether it was consensual or not. Between the ages of 13 and 16, the difference in age becomes more important.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 09, 2013 6:34 am ]
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cloaked_wolf wrote:
There's a difference between rape and consensual sex. Sex with a child under the age of 13 is statutory rape irrespective of whether it was consensual or not. Between the ages of 13 and 16, the difference in age becomes more important.

Yes and if the person is more than a couple of years older then that could be a problem. Though considering the adverts about domestic violence between teens in that case even a narrow age gap should not be a bar to prosecutions for rape within a relationship. While girls might mature earlier than boys they could still benefit from protection under the law.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu May 09, 2013 8:41 am ]
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Age of consent should be 13 says idiot.

Age of consent should be 13 says paedophile?
I'd have to wonder.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu May 09, 2013 8:49 am ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
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Age of consent should be 13 says idiot.

Age of consent should be 13 says paedophile?
I'd have to wonder.

I think that she is a lawyer for one of the accused. Though changing the age might be a very bad thing in terms of child protection. It might actually encourage paedophiles to target 13 year olds.
Author:  oceanicitl [ Thu May 09, 2013 10:44 am ]
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A lot of 12 year olds are sending naked pictures to each other.

Just saying.
Author:  TheFrenchun [ Thu May 09, 2013 10:57 am ]
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oceanicitl wrote:
A lot of 12 year olds are sending naked pictures to each other.

Just saying.

To each other is not the same that to a significantly older adult.
I think that in the US there's an age gap limit for people under 21? Aka if you're over 21 having sex with a 16 year old, it's not ok, but if you're 17 it is?
I might be making this up.

13 year old is way too young regardless. I wonder how many of those kids really are interested in sex and how many really only react to peer pressure.
Author:  oceanicitl [ Thu May 09, 2013 12:30 pm ]
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TheFrenchun wrote:
13 year old is way too young regardless. I wonder how many of those kids really are interested in sex and how many really only react to peer pressure.


From what I've heard they're starting young these days which isn't really surprising considering what is thrown at them from a young age.

I don't agree with lowering the age of consent at all.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu May 09, 2013 1:20 pm ]
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oceanicitl wrote:
I don't agree with lowering the age of consent at all.

+1
It's that age, not for physical reasons, but for mental ones.
Author:  saspro [ Thu May 09, 2013 1:49 pm ]
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TheFrenchun wrote:
oceanicitl wrote:
A lot of 12 year olds are sending naked pictures to each other.

Just saying.

To each other is not the same that to a significantly older adult.
I think that in the US there's an age gap limit for people under 21? Aka if you're over 21 having sex with a 16 year old, it's not ok, but if you're 17 it is?
I might be making this up.

13 year old is way too young regardless. I wonder how many of those kids really are interested in sex and how many really only react to peer pressure.


I think the USA is strict on their over 21 policy but in Italy there's the 2 year age difference rule
Author:  JJW009 [ Thu May 09, 2013 4:37 pm ]
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There are similar policies all over the place. I'm sure bigD has talked about it in Germany, and the laws in Japan are pretty complex - although the age of consent is 13, in practice their indecency laws make it illegal until much older.

I think it's stupid to criminalise young people who choose to experiment, but most would agree that a 45 year old (or however old the defendant was) really shouldn't be messing with middle-school girls. Especially from a position of perceived authority.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu May 09, 2013 6:35 pm ]
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Don't you mean criminalise young boys?
When two under sixteens sleep together, it always seems to be the boy that gets into the most trouble.
Author:  TheFrenchun [ Thu May 09, 2013 6:41 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
Don't you mean criminalise young boys?
When two under sixteens sleep together, it always seems to be the boy that gets into the most trouble.

Do you mean apart from pregnancy , bullying and stigma?
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