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Author:  pcernie [ Sat May 11, 2013 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Cleveland Police in huge damages payout to lawyer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22452157

Now, criminal charges all round, that would be nice :evil:
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat May 11, 2013 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Cleveland Police in huge damages payout to lawyer
There needs to be an end to the compensation cap. Otherwise the police will abuse this. Unless there is significant financial pain the police will not reform their behaviour.


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Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat May 11, 2013 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cleveland Police in huge damages payout to lawyer
It's like fining hospitals though, it's pointless. when you do that, at the end of the day the people who suffer aren't the people in the organisation, it's the people they serve. The people whose houses are burgled or who are mugged because the police's budget has been eroded by compensation claims. Just like when you fine a hospital the people who end up hurt are the patients who can't get treatment because the relevant equipment hasn't been bought, or because the hospital trust can't pay a surgeon enough hours to do the operation they need.

There's no point punishing the organisation, because the pain just gets absorbed and passed on. What needs to happen is that the individual officers and the management above them need to feel the pain personally. if that means being sacked, fine. If that means being prosecuted, fine.
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sat May 11, 2013 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cleveland Police in huge damages payout to lawyer
jonbwfc wrote:
It's like fining hospitals though, it's pointless. when you do that, at the end of the day the people who suffer aren't the people in the organisation, it's the people they serve. The people whose houses are burgled or who are mugged because the police's budget has been eroded by compensation claims. Just like when you fine a hospital the people who end up hurt are the patients who can't get treatment because the relevant equipment hasn't been bought, or because the hospital trust can't pay a surgeon enough hours to do the operation they need.

There's no point punishing the organisation, because the pain just gets absorbed and passed on. What needs to happen is that the individual officers and the management above them need to feel the pain personally. if that means being sacked, fine. If that means being prosecuted, fine.


couldn’t agree more
if management make the mistakes then they must pay themselves
if management makes the mistakes on behalf of the company then they both must pay

i have no problem with bringing this to their very own doorstep ...
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun May 12, 2013 6:07 am ]
Post subject:  Cleveland Police in huge damages payout to lawyer
jonbwfc wrote:
It's like fining hospitals though, it's pointless. when you do that, at the end of the day the people who suffer aren't the people in the organisation, it's the people they serve. The people whose houses are burgled or who are mugged because the police's budget has been eroded by compensation claims. Just like when you fine a hospital the people who end up hurt are the patients who can't get treatment because the relevant equipment hasn't been bought, or because the hospital trust can't pay a surgeon enough hours to do the operation they need.

There's no point punishing the organisation, because the pain just gets absorbed and passed on. What needs to happen is that the individual officers and the management above them need to feel the pain personally. if that means being sacked, fine. If that means being prosecuted, fine.

You and I know that these costs become incorporated as normal operating expenses and the top boss will still claim their bonuses. Strip them of enough money that bonuses become obscene and they end. Yes it will mean that the public are impacted but that might also push them to oust the police commissioner, and Cheif Constables. Unless there is significant pain within the organisation nothing will change. All the officers should be sacked and any pensions accrued should be lost to help provide the pay out. That way the officers involved suffer rather than the service as a whole. I do not see why the tax payer should have to pay out when officers have acted maliciously.


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