http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22545804
If it stops women saying 'Marksies!' like it was something special it'll be worth it
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| Author: | pcernie [ Sat May 18, 2013 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22545804 If it stops women saying 'Marksies!' like it was something special it'll be worth it
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| Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Sat May 18, 2013 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers |
Is it possible to protect a card against this kind of activity eg a pocketable faraday cage type wallet? |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Sat May 18, 2013 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers |
I'm glad I don't have any contactless cards. I don't like the idea of electronic cash transfers without any security. |
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| Author: | belchingmatt [ Sat May 18, 2013 7:34 pm ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers | |||||||||
Yes, Pacsafe have an [url]RFID blocking wallet.[/url] Not the prettiest of things though. |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Sat May 18, 2013 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers |
The problem is that you might still be sent a contact less card when it is next renewed even if you did not order one. You still need to be careful. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. |
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| Author: | jonbwfc [ Sat May 18, 2013 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers |
My new card (Smile, incidentally) has an RFID chip, I didn't specify I wanted one. Mind you, I didn't specify I wanted a card without one either. So a solution to a problem nobody had is now causing a problem itself. Well done everyone! |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Sat May 18, 2013 11:14 pm ] | |||||||||
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Because of my memory all my cards are chip and signature, but do not come with a PIN. So at least I do not have to worry about getting a pin transaction at the same. Though what can they realistically do to stop this from happening to others elsewhere? Reducing the power of the sensor might help and asking people whether they want a contact less card at all. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. |
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| Author: | paulzolo [ Mon May 20, 2013 9:11 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers | ||||||||||||||||||
From what I can tell from the couple of Visa employees I follow on Twitter, the system should ask which card is to be used before taking payment if it detects more than one. I guess this is down to implementation at the terminal, and user behaviour not being accounted for at the software/hardware level. My new business debit card is contactless. It never leaves the house, so it’s not a concern. My next bank debit cards no doubt will be. I’ll have to be more careful with how I handle my wallet when paying for something. I miss having to write a cheque. It set up a “do you really need this” barrier in my mind. I guess I saved more money in those days than I do now. |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Mon May 20, 2013 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers |
When the people who developed contact less payment their normal behaviour was already modified through previous trials. When it gets into the real world then the real problems are found. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Mon May 20, 2013 12:13 pm ] | |||||||||
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If my bank do that, I'll be asking them to disable any transactions at their end. |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Mon May 20, 2013 3:10 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Only if you know about it. My cousin only found out at the checkout that his card was contact less. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Mon May 20, 2013 8:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers |
But surely he could then say to the bank 'block any contactless transactions in the future, I want to use chip and pin only. ' |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue May 21, 2013 8:52 pm ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Contactless 'charging errors' at Marks and Spencers | |||||||||
Actually I do not think he minds so much. He has not made any additional comments since that first time. |
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