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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22545804If it stops women saying 'Marksies!' like it was something special it'll be worth it 
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Sat May 18, 2013 12:20 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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Is it possible to protect a card against this kind of activity eg a pocketable faraday cage type wallet?
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Sat May 18, 2013 12:31 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I'm glad I don't have any contactless cards. I don't like the idea of electronic cash transfers without any security.
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Sat May 18, 2013 2:19 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Yes, Pacsafe have an [url]RFID blocking wallet.[/url] Not the prettiest of things though.
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Sat May 18, 2013 7:34 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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The problem is that you might still be sent a contact less card when it is next renewed even if you did not order one. You still need to be careful.
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Sat May 18, 2013 7:56 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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My new card (Smile, incidentally) has an RFID chip, I didn't specify I wanted one. Mind you, I didn't specify I wanted a card without one either.
So a solution to a problem nobody had is now causing a problem itself. Well done everyone!
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Sat May 18, 2013 10:40 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Because of my memory all my cards are chip and signature, but do not come with a PIN. So at least I do not have to worry about getting a pin transaction at the same. Though what can they realistically do to stop this from happening to others elsewhere? Reducing the power of the sensor might help and asking people whether they want a contact less card at all. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk.
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Sat May 18, 2013 11:14 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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From what I can tell from the couple of Visa employees I follow on Twitter, the system should ask which card is to be used before taking payment if it detects more than one. I guess this is down to implementation at the terminal, and user behaviour not being accounted for at the software/hardware level. My new business debit card is contactless. It never leaves the house, so it’s not a concern. My next bank debit cards no doubt will be. I’ll have to be more careful with how I handle my wallet when paying for something. I miss having to write a cheque. It set up a “do you really need this” barrier in my mind. I guess I saved more money in those days than I do now.
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Mon May 20, 2013 9:11 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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When the people who developed contact less payment their normal behaviour was already modified through previous trials. When it gets into the real world then the real problems are found.
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Mon May 20, 2013 9:28 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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If my bank do that, I'll be asking them to disable any transactions at their end.
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Mon May 20, 2013 12:13 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Only if you know about it. My cousin only found out at the checkout that his card was contact less. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Mon May 20, 2013 3:10 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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But surely he could then say to the bank 'block any contactless transactions in the future, I want to use chip and pin only. '
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Mon May 20, 2013 8:58 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Actually I do not think he minds so much. He has not made any additional comments since that first time.
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Tue May 21, 2013 8:52 pm |
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