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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:55 am ]
Post subject:  EU forges bank bailout deal to protect taxpayers

The European Union has struck a deal on rules establishing who will pay for future bank bailouts without taxpayers having to foot the bill.

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After the 2008-09 financial crisis, countries such as Ireland, Britain and Germany had to pump dozens of billions of pounds and euros in fresh capital into ailing banks to prevent the financial system collapsing.

To avoid that happening again, finance ministers discussed who should contribute in which order so that ordinary taxpayers are not left with the bill.

"Bail-in is now the rule," Ireland's finance minister, Michael Noonan, said. The rules put an end to moral hazard by making it clear that banks would suffer before the government might come in to help, if at all, he said. "This is a revolutionary change in the way banks are treated."

The rules foresee that banks' creditors and shareholders would be the first to take losses. But if that were not enough to prop up the lender, small companies and ordinary savers holding uninsured deposits worth more than 100,000 euros (£85,000) would also take a hit, officials said.

Those forced losses would go as high as 8% of a bank's total liabilities. Only then would national governments kick in and top it up with a bailout possibly worth another 5% of the liabilities.

The negotiations were complicated because some nations feared being bound by overly rigid European rules. Others warned that too much flexibility would create new imbalances between the bloc's weaker and stronger economies and a lack of common rules would destroy certainty for investors and erode trust in the financial system.

But the rules will now apply equally for the 17 EU nations sharing the euro currency and the 10 member states, including Britain, that have their own currency, Dijsselbloem said.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: EU forges bank bailout deal to protect taxpayers

So it's now enshrined in law that governments can rob your bank account.
Nice

So if I had that kind of money I'd be keeping a maximum of £84k in each bank.

Author:  JJW009 [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:32 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
So it's now enshrined in law that governments can rob your bank account.
Nice

So if I had that kind of money I'd be keeping a maximum of £84k in each bank.

I think that was already the limit. More was not guaranteed to be secure.

Author:  pcernie [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: EU forges bank bailout deal to protect taxpayers

I'd hate to be the government that has to act on it. And is it just me or has this not made the splash it should have?

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: EU forges bank bailout deal to protect taxpayers

pcernie wrote:
I'd hate to be the government that has to act on it. And is it just me or has this not made the splash it should have?

Well the Irish government will probably have to do it soon to all its customers. Their banks are still insolvent. Though I suspect that governments will try and merge banks first to hide the problems pretty much like Bear Stearns and Dresdner Bank were merged into other banks to save them.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: EU forges bank bailout deal to protect taxpayers

I heard that AIB has another estimated €30 billion in losses to disclose, that will be popular once the tax payers get asked for that.


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Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:14 pm ]
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I'm not sure 'forges' is the best verb to use under the circumstances...

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