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Author:  pcernie [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-23203806
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
They are probably better insulated than the old routemasters so do not lose heat as well. If we have a cold winter they might be more popular.


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Author:  davrosG5 [ Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
From the admittedly very tiny picture on the BBC website it looked like those buses don't have any opening windows.
Seems like a bad design to me.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
davrosG5 wrote:
From the admittedly very tiny picture on the BBC website it looked like those buses don't have any opening windows.
Seems like a bad design to me.

And that could explain the reason for it being too hot. I wonder how much it would cost to retrofit the buses with windows that open?
Author:  TheFrenchun [ Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
You don't want opening windows in an air conditioned bus. However you do want the air-con to work.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
TheFrenchun wrote:
You don't want opening windows in an air conditioned bus. However you do want the air-con to work.

You can't air condition a vehicle effectively if it's stopping every 30 seconds and opening doors to let people on and off. Plus at low speeds (less than 50mph, ish) having the windows open is actually a more fuel efficient way to cool a moving vehicle than aircon.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
jonbwfc wrote:
TheFrenchun wrote:
You don't want opening windows in an air conditioned bus. However you do want the air-con to work.

You can't air condition a vehicle effectively if it's stopping every 30 seconds and opening doors to let people on and off. Plus at low speeds (less than 50mph, ish) having the windows open is actually a more fuel efficient way to cool a moving vehicle than aircon.

It also has an open door at the back. So air-conditioning would be useless.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
Amnesia10 wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:
From the admittedly very tiny picture on the BBC website it looked like those buses don't have any opening windows.
Seems like a bad design to me.

And that could explain the reason for it being too hot. I wonder how much it would cost to retrofit the buses with windows that open?

Not too much more. They have to relpace graffiti ridden windows frequently anyway.
Author:  tombolt [ Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ballymena 'Boris Buses' prove too hot for some Londoners
jonbwfc wrote:
TheFrenchun wrote:
You don't want opening windows in an air conditioned bus. However you do want the air-con to work.

You can't air condition a vehicle effectively if it's stopping every 30 seconds and opening doors to let people on and off. Plus at low speeds (less than 50mph, ish) having the windows open is actually a more fuel efficient way to cool a moving vehicle than aircon.


More fuel efficient, but less effective.
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