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Author: | Zippy [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:11 am ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | EU Court to rule on Bamber Life Term | |||||||||
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23230419
Probably should have thought about that before they started murdering people then! Honestly, why hasn't someone sat him down and said "look, you murdered 5 members of your own family, why on earth would you think you have any rights to freedom as a result?" |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: EU Court to rule on Bamber Life Term |
Yes but Bamber is clearly a sociopath and should probably never be released. I have no problems with life tariffs. Otherwise the public will want the death penalty. The courts have not been extravagant and doled out life tariffs to every killer. So only 49 will never be released, which seems acceptable. |
Author: | rustybucket [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:57 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
Post subject: | Re: EU Court to rule on Bamber Life Term | ||||||||||||||||||
He doesn't think that. The claim is that stuck in a silo with no realistic prospect of review of the sentence and no chance of rehabilitation amounts to "inhuman and degrading" treatment. I agree. Sticking someone in a hole because we don't know what to do with them is not the mark of a civilised society.
If he is so very clearly a sociopath who should not be released, there's no danger in a periodic review because he won't be released. If, however, he is not so clearly a sociopath, we need to have periodic reviews for the same reason that we don't have capital punishment - the justice system makes mistakes. And rectifying a mistake should not be the job of a partisan politician who is subject to the whims and desires of that morning's headlines. All they have to do is say that he gets a parole hearing after the first 25 years and every 10 years thereafter. But that would rampant softy-liberalism, wouldn't it? |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:20 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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I have no problems with him getting the opportunity for reviews. As you say the justice system makes mistakes. Let him have his review, he may still be complaining in twenty years time. |
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