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Author:  Paul1965 [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:32 am ]
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From the BBC:

Quote:
A snake escaped from a pet shop and killed two children in the Canadian province of New Brunswick, police say. In a statement, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said they believed the reptile had strangled two boys, aged five and seven, in Campbellton.

The boys were staying overnight at a friend's apartment above the pet shop. Police said they believe the snake slipped out of its cage overnight and travelled through the ventilation. The serpent has been captured by police.


Well if the snake was in a cage, no wonder it escaped. Sounds like a big python or Boa. Pretty grim for the family. More here.

Author:  Zippy [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:45 am ]
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Most people (who don't *know*) call them cages because they can't come up with the correct term.

I can't quite work out though how it managed to choose the windpipe of one child and start to constrict without that child waking up and alarming the other. It's a very rare thing for a snake to attack like that. Even if they are attacking *prey* they usually bite first to get a grip before they constrict. It stinks a bit of something else to me.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:51 am ]
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Apparently a rock python. Still a terrible incident.

Author:  TheFrenchun [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:29 am ]
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I knew someone who misplaced a snake for 3 weeks. Seems it went to the neighbours through the plumbing.

Author:  Paul1965 [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:53 am ]
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I had a couple of viperine snakes a few years ago and somehow one got out. As it was a young snake I thought that was the end of it. It turned up nearly a year later in the garage. It was very thin but recovered well. Snakes are notorious for testing every part of a terrarium tank to find a possible escape route they can exploit.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:16 pm ]
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Paul1965 wrote:
Snakes are notorious for testing every part of a terrarium tank to find a possible escape route they can exploit.

Clearly cleverer than we think they are. I have never been interested in a pet snake, not that I am afraid of them, more curious really. I did think of getting tarantula's, though debating getting bunnies and calling them Tupac, Notorious R.A.B and Snoop Rabby Rabbit. ;)

Author:  davrosG5 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:27 pm ]
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Zippy wrote:
I can't quite work out though how it managed to choose the windpipe of one child and start to constrict without that child waking up and alarming the other. It's a very rare thing for a snake to attack like that. Even if they are attacking *prey* they usually bite first to get a grip before they constrict. It stinks a bit of something else to me.


So I'm not the only one who thought it sounded a bit suspect then. If the kids were both in the same room I find it hard to believe it could have got them both without raiseing enough of a comotion to either wake the other kid or someone else in the house. My second thought being, if the snake had managed to kill one then wouldn't it have started trying to eat the body?

I confess I've never owned snakes but I was very much of the impression that they killed and ate something and it would do them for quite a while rather than trying to get everything in the area.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:32 pm ]
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A couple of people I know are very into owning and breeding snakes, and they're calling bullsh1t on this story.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:43 pm ]
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davrosG5 wrote:
Zippy wrote:
I can't quite work out though how it managed to choose the windpipe of one child and start to constrict without that child waking up and alarming the other. It's a very rare thing for a snake to attack like that. Even if they are attacking *prey* they usually bite first to get a grip before they constrict. It stinks a bit of something else to me.


So I'm not the only one who thought it sounded a bit suspect then. If the kids were both in the same room I find it hard to believe it could have got them both without raiseing enough of a comotion to either wake the other kid or someone else in the house. My second thought being, if the snake had managed to kill one then wouldn't it have started trying to eat the body?

I confess I've never owned snakes but I was very much of the impression that they killed and ate something and it would do them for quite a while rather than trying to get everything in the area.

Snakes will only attack if they are threatened. They avoid trouble if they can. That is why they disappear for so long. They also only kill to eat, and one child would be enough for several months. A big python like that could eat a large deer so a child would be easy. I also thought that the death of both children was strange. Though I am not a snake expert but this does smell slightly dodgy. I do hope that they see if there is any human DNA on the snake.

Author:  TheFrenchun [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:46 pm ]
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They also like heat, which may be difficult to find in Canada.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:53 pm ]
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TheFrenchun wrote:
They also like heat, which may be difficult to find in Canada.

It might stay indoors and there is plenty of pipes in most homes that could keep a snake warm, also they might go into brumation.

Apparently this particular species is bad tempered and aggressive.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:17 pm ]
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Quote:
Snake deaths now a murder investigation
Two Canadian boys killed by a python could now be a homicide

Investigations into two young Canadian brothers thought to be strangled by a python has taken a twist, with police now treating it as a possible murder.
Connor Barthe, 7, and brother Noah, 5, were killed while they slept in an apartment above an exotic pet store, but there were no screams.
It comes after the mother of the pair posted hundreds of photos of her boys taken last year, playing in and cleaning her neighbours snake cage.
Police have stepped up their inquiries, but won’t release further details until full post mortem results are known.

Snake experts have also raised questions stating pythons seeking food always bite first.
John Marais from the African Snake Bite Institute said “if it grabs a kid, you’re going to have more than enough time to scream”.
“You can’t be asleep and be bitten by a python and strangled. That’s impossible,” Mr Marais told News Limited. “You’re going to wake up instantly.”
It’s believed the non-poisonous rock python escaped its enclosure and got into the ventilation system, before slithering into the apartment where the boys were sleeping.


http://www.fox.com.au/fox-news-feed/2013/8/snake-deaths-now-a-murder-investigation/

Author:  Zippy [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:09 pm ]
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Knew it!

Author:  Zippy [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:11 pm ]
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BTW - it's not "non-poisonous" it's non-venomous! *grr*

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:43 pm ]
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Zippy wrote:
Knew it!

Yes I think that you and DavrosG5 were the first to question it. At least the police did not treat this purely as an accident.

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