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Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  'Bongo Bongo Land': UKIP MEP Bloom told to not to use phrase

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The UK Independence Party has asked one of its senior politicians not to use the phrase "Bongo Bongo Land" again, warning that people abroad might find it "disparaging".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23597233

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:59 am ]
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Not just people from abroad. The Tories apparently have a special team just looking for racist comments from UKIP MEP's and councillors.

Author:  pcernie [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:05 pm ]
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'Hey! Bongo Bongo!'

Silvio WILL be angry to only be learning of this place now.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:26 am ]
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Bongoland is not an insult in Tanzania at least.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:53 am ]
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In case you missed it, Godfrey on C4 news last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz0QoMKt5c8.

Author:  Spreadie [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:19 am ]
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The sad thing is, his objection is a valid one. He just didn't have the wit to realise that using a phrase like that, regardless of intent, would sideline the point he was trying to make about misappropriated charity.

That said, his argument doesn't justify not sending aid; even if it does underline the fact that much of the aid doesn't reach the intended recipients.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:11 pm ]
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Spreadie wrote:
The sad thing is, his objection is a valid one. He just didn't have the wit to realise that using a phrase like that, regardless of intent, would sideline the point he was trying to make about misappropriated charity.

The Tories were very aware of that and actually tried to reduce the corruption impact and restrict the aid to where it could have the greatest bank for your buck. That was why they reduced the aid to India. So he might be a little wide of the mark even if it was a good point some time ago. While the Tories have been cack-handed with many policies this one was right and has so far been handled well.

Spreadie wrote:
That said, his argument doesn't justify not sending aid; even if it does underline the fact that much of the aid doesn't reach the intended recipients.

Agreed, it probably works out as significantly cheaper to help people overseas than have them come here and displace a local from a low paid job and us having to keep that person on the dole. It also helps our overseas reputation.

Author:  oceanicitl [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:28 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
"Bongo Bongo Land"


:lol: :lol:

That term makes me laugh

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:45 pm ]
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oceanicitl wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
"Bongo Bongo Land"


:lol: :lol:

That term makes me laugh

I will accept is amusing but still very racist and condescending.

Author:  hifidelity2 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:55 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
oceanicitl wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
"Bongo Bongo Land"


:lol: :lol:

That term makes me laugh

I will accept is amusing but still very racist and condescending.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-23600129

Only in your eyes

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What's more, using the term may get you kudos - not criticism - in Tanzania. "Young people think they sound sophisticated when they use the term," Famau says.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:31 pm ]
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hifidelity2 wrote:
Only in your eyes

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What's more, using the term may get you kudos - not criticism - in Tanzania. "Young people think they sound sophisticated when they use the term," Famau says.

I did link to that article earlier. ;)

Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:33 pm ]
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What's more, using the term may get you kudos - not criticism - in Tanzania. "Young people think they sound sophisticated when they use the term," Famau says.

That explanation might have helped Bloom avoid controversy.

I rather expect, though, that this notion was as far from his mind as all the other supportive arguments in that article. I expect that, like Lance Corporal Jones’ term “fuzzy-wuzzies”, that the phrase “Bongo Bongo Land” emanates from the pejorative attitude of Empire.

Author:  hifidelity2 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:37 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
hifidelity2 wrote:
Only in your eyes

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What's more, using the term may get you kudos - not criticism - in Tanzania. "Young people think they sound sophisticated when they use the term," Famau says.

I did link to that article earlier. ;)

Oh yes - sorry missed that

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:19 pm ]
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hifidelity2 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
I did link to that article earlier. ;)

Oh yes - sorry missed that

No problem I miss things all the time.

paulzolo wrote:
I expect that, like Lance Corporal Jones’ term “fuzzy-wuzzies”, that the phrase “Bongo Bongo Land” emanates from the pejorative attitude of Empire.

That is it perfectly. The problem is that we live in a multicultural nation now and really should be far more aware of the risk to insult. In some respects the "fuzzy wuzzies" of Corporal Jones were a throw back to an even early age of abuse. The British Army in WW2 was filled with people of many nations who fought for us in Asia.

Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:55 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
hifidelity2 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
I did link to that article earlier. ;)

Oh yes - sorry missed that

No problem I miss things all the time.

paulzolo wrote:
I expect that, like Lance Corporal Jones’ term “fuzzy-wuzzies”, that the phrase “Bongo Bongo Land” emanates from the pejorative attitude of Empire.

That is it perfectly. The problem is that we live in a multicultural nation now and really should be far more aware of the risk to insult. In some respects the "fuzzy wuzzies" of Corporal Jones were a throw back to an even early age of abuse. The British Army in WW2 was filled with people of many nations who fought for us in Asia.


I shall remind you all that Lionel Dunning (no immediate relation), rode a horse named Jungle Bunny in the 1980s. Even then no one batted an eyelid.
http://youtu.be/5gx_fsB6v_E

(As an aside, I met Jungle Bunny when he was in retirement in the Isle of Wight in the 1990s. Nice horse, I was told he was grumpy, but he seemed OK with me.)

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