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Author:  Spreadie [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:55 am ]
Post subject:  All your camera phones are belong to us

Apple patents tech to let cops switch off iPhone video, camera and wi-fi

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Police forces around the world have had the problem that when their officers get a bit carried away and start pepper spraying tied captives there is someone on hand filming the event on their mobile phones.

While six police lay into prone grannies on the floor with long batons, the pictures can be on the net in seconds, meaning supervisors have to answer embarrassing questions.

But they may not need to fear scrutiny much longer - Apple has patented a piece of technology which would allow government and police to block transmission of information, including video and photographs, whenever they like.

All the coppers have to do is decide that a public gathering or venue is deemed "sensitive", and needs to be "protected from externalities" and Apple will switch off all its gear.

The police can then get on with the very difficult task of kettling protesters without having to worry about a few beating anyone to death.

Apple insists that the affected sites are mostly cinemas, theatres, concert grounds and similar locations, but it does admit that it could be used in "covert police or government operations which may require complete 'blackout' conditions".

According to RT it could also be used to prevent whistleblowers like Edward Snowden from taking pictures and broadcasting them on the interent.

Apple said that the wireless transmission of sensitive information to a remote source is one example of a threat to security.

But it said that this sensitive information could be anything from classified government information to questions or answers to an examination administered in an academic setting.

Apple patented the means to transmit an encoded signal to all wireless devices, commanding them to disable recording functions.

The policies would be activated by GPS, and wi-fi or mobile base-stations, which would ring-fence ("geofence") around a building or a "sensitive area" to prevent phone cameras from taking pictures or recording video.

Odd that the company made famous by its 1984 Big Brother video can't really see what it is doing. Perhaps its own secretive culture and an overzealous security treatment of its staff have fostered sympathy for Big Brother after all.

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Author:  HeatherKay [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:03 am ]
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Simple way round that: use a proper camera and upload it later.

There's a distinct feeling that the "forces of law and order" don't like being observed doing their job. It doesn't help that their job seems to be increasingly brow beat the ordinary citizens at the behest of those in power.

They seem to forget that they are employed by those same citizens.

Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:49 am ]
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Surely this is easily circumventable? Just put the phone into airplane mode and it won't be contactable by gps/wifi/3G/base station but will still be able to record and can then be uploaded later?

Also think this is very dodgy grounds. I've no qualms about "mobile phone blockers" in cinemas or theatres but this is OTT IMO.

Professionally, I'd hate to be videoed at work. Having said that:

1. I used to video consultations all the time so we could analyse my diagnostic/communication/interpersonal skills during my training period
2. It's more the "someone looking over my shoulder" feeling that I'd hate
3. I'd be less uptight if a patient told me they were going to tape me during the consultation before the consultation started (I might walk out, refuse, or carry on, but at least I'd have that choice).

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:28 am ]
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Cinemas have an IR detectors that can detect cameras and camcorders so this might be irrelevant. If someone is recording a movie in a cinema they will be detected, plus I think that there are other counter measures that ruin the quality of any recording in a cinema.

If this were used then the police would have an immediate credibility problem should there be any fatalities. Who would trust they were not involved?


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Author:  pcernie [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:29 am ]
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Presumably the EU would be all over this if they ever tried it anyway :?

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:57 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
Presumably the EU would be all over this if they ever tried it anyway :?

Our police will be first in the queue to use it.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:43 pm ]
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Why would you patent something that would make people less likely to buy your product in the first place?

Author:  steve74 [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:40 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
Why would you patent something that would make people less likely to buy your product in the first place?

Simply to stop the competition patenting it. Just because they've patented it, doesn't mean they have any intention of using it in any product range any time soon.

This is the patent system - normal logic doesn't apply here!

Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:00 pm ]
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I somehow have a feeling your typical counter-culture protester type isn't really the type to buy an iPhone anyway...

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:25 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
I somehow have a feeling your typical counter-culture protester type isn't really the type to buy an iPhone anyway...

I would not know I have not been on such protests to notice. ;)


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