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In the event of an attack the bins are designed to explode upwards


That's quite an image :lol: :oops:

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More than 2,000 bins were cleared from the Square Mile after a truck bomb killed one person and injured 44.

This weekend 20 new blast-proof bins are being introduced on a trial basis after complaints about litter.

It does seem to have taken them time to install. Though what is it with people just throwing rubbish on the streets? Why not take it to the office or home and throw it away there?

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More than 2,000 bins were cleared from the Square Mile after a truck bomb killed one person and injured 44.

This weekend 20 new blast-proof bins are being introduced on a trial basis after complaints about litter.

It does seem to have taken them time to install. Though what is it with people just throwing rubbish on the streets? Why not take it to the office or home and throw it away there?


It sounds more like the nightlife's doing going by the article, which is sorta to be expected. Though you can certainly walk for miles without seeing a bin in parts of Belfast, and when you do it's often illogically placed! God only knows what it's like in some of the more rural areas...

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More than 2,000 bins were cleared from the Square Mile after a truck bomb killed one person and injured 44.

This weekend 20 new blast-proof bins are being introduced on a trial basis after complaints about litter.

It does seem to have taken them time to install. Though what is it with people just throwing rubbish on the streets? Why not take it to the office or home and throw it away there?


It sounds more like the nightlife's doing going by the article, which is sorta to be expected. Though you can certainly walk for miles without seeing a bin in parts of Belfast, and when you do it's often illogically placed! God only knows what it's like in some of the more rural areas...

I can understand in Belfast though it has never occurred to me to dump my waste even on a night out. I always try and find a bin somewhere. If you are in a burger bar or kebab shop then dump it in their bins.

If I was on a hike somewhere I would always take my rubbish home or find a bin. I cannot see the justification to dump rubbish even if there are no bins.

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When you're blotto and eating a semi-poisonous kebab the entire world's different ;)

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When you're blotto and eating a semi-poisonous kebab the entire world's different ;)

No even when I am pissed as a fart I do not litter. Though does throwing up a dodgy kebab count?


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When you're blotto and eating a semi-poisonous kebab the entire world's different ;)

No even when I am pissed as a fart I do not litter. Though does throwing up a dodgy kebab count?


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More than 2,000 bins were cleared from the Square Mile after a truck bomb killed one person and injured 44.

This weekend 20 new blast-proof bins are being introduced on a trial basis after complaints about litter.

It does seem to have taken them time to install. Though what is it with people just throwing rubbish on the streets? Why not take it to the office or home and throw it away there?

The problem is if you are there for hours. It is the same on the underground. Here, ever carriage has a dozen bins and each platform has large 3 way bins (paper, plastic and rest). And drink bottle are taken to the next shop to get your 25c back. In London we had to carry them for hours at a time, until we finally found a bin or got back to the hotel - which wasn't really equipped to cope with the rubbish accumulated by a family of 4 over a complete day.

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The idea of a trial of these bins amused me.

How does that work? People place explosives in them at random to test that they really do explode upward. :-D

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The opening part of that report makes little sense to me:

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Blast resistant litter bins have been introduced in London's Bishopsgate 20 years after they were removed following an IRA attack.

More than 2,000 bins were cleared from the Square Mile after a truck bomb killed one person and injured 44.


I'm well aware that bombs in bins were indeed a serious issue that justified the removal of litter bins.
However, unless the person that was killed was indeed taken out by a low flying bin removing bins in response to a truck bomb seems like an odd leap to me. To guard against vehicular bombs you'd need checkpoints checking for them all over the place and I would have thought the main killer from such devices would be either the blast itself or shrapnel generated by the containing vehicle (or packed round the bomb) rather than from bits of street furniture.

I do wonder how well someone would fair if hit by a heavy bin dropping out of the sky after it's been launched upwards.

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I do wonder how well someone would fair if hit by a heavy bin dropping out of the sky after it's been launched upwards.

Being cynical, that's one person as oppose to the number the bomb would have killed if it had gone off in an ordinary bin. However, this is a case of not just bolting the door after the horse has fled, this is after it has fled, got to another stable, lived a long and happy life and died of old age.

So the bins are now bomb proof? Fine. Your terrorist just puts it somewhere in the whole rest of the town that isn't bomb-proof then. 11-9? Not bins. 7/7? Not bins. Boston? Not bins.


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I do wonder how well someone would fair if hit by a heavy bin dropping out of the sky after it's been launched upwards.

Being cynical, that's one person as oppose to the number the bomb would have killed if it had gone off in an ordinary bin. However, this is a case of not just bolting the door after the horse has fled, this is after it has fled, got to another stable, lived a long and happy life and died of old age.

So the bins are now bomb proof? Fine. Your terrorist just puts it somewhere in the whole rest of the town that isn't bomb-proof then. 11-9? Not bins. 7/7? Not bins. Boston? Not bins.


Indeed. The most advanced bomb proof bins in the world can achieve naff all against a fanatic with a rucksack full of explosives.

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More than 2,000 bins were cleared from the Square Mile after a truck bomb killed one person and injured 44.

This weekend 20 new blast-proof bins are being introduced on a trial basis after complaints about litter.

It does seem to have taken them time to install. Though what is it with people just throwing rubbish on the streets? Why not take it to the office or home and throw it away there?

The problem is if you are there for hours. It is the same on the underground. Here, ever carriage has a dozen bins and each platform has large 3 way bins (paper, plastic and rest). And drink bottle are taken to the next shop to get your 25c back. In London we had to carry them for hours at a time, until we finally found a bin or got back to the hotel - which wasn't really equipped to cope with the rubbish accumulated by a family of 4 over a complete day.

I appreciate that. Though having plenty of bins should a priority for tourist resorts. Whenever I go somewhere I take advantage of the local drinking establishments for booze and coffee so no need to carry them around. Though for a family of four that can add up on a daily basis so I can understand why people take their own or get cheaper solutions.

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Yeah, 19c for 1.5 litres of water in a bottler or 4 times 1€ for four 0.3 litre glasses of water in a café, it makes a big difference, especially over a 2 week holiday and that you should drink a couple of litres a day... We ate in cafés and restaurants a lot, but we always had a couple of bottles of water in the back packs for drinking during the day.

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I always try and drink tap water when out in London in restaurants. Most do not charge, but if I were in a place where the tap water was not so clean I would be drinking bottled instead.

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