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Author:  pcernie [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:59 pm ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23750289

Hope he takes them to court - I'd love to see them try and justify using the Terrorism Act.

And the US have said they had nothing to do with it other than get a 'heads-up'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23761918
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:54 am ]
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It is also the seizure of all his electronics equipment. This is deliberate harassment of the press and puts the UK up there with other questionable regimes.


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Author:  E. F. Benson [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:43 am ]
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So you didn't listen to Alex Jones then?
Author:  pcernie [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:49 am ]
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E. F. Benson wrote:
So you didn't listen to Alex Jones then?


She's cute but I don't listen to her ;)

No, what did he have to say?
Author:  E. F. Benson [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:02 pm ]
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I was listening to his Bilderburg rants. They seemed pertinent.

As for Ms Jones, she knows what she is doing.
Author:  pcernie [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:30 pm ]
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David Miranda in legal challenge over seized data

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23769324

Good, but this bit's laughable

Quote:
The Home Office has defended the detention, saying police must act if they think someone has "stolen information that would help terrorism".


Stealing information? I suppose they'd know all about it. I suppose this 'helping terrorism' BS is standard now too. Reminded me of a Punisher comic where a character said you could fcuk a puppy live on TV so long as you shouted 'National Security!' while you were doing it...
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:55 pm ]
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Quote:
Law firm Bindmans have written to the home secretary and Met Police commissioner for assurances "there will be no inspection, copying, disclosure, transfer, distribution or interference, in any way, with our client's data pending determination of our client's claim".

Good luck with that it is probably already all on the NSA servers.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:39 pm ]
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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:52 pm ]
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NSA files: why the Guardian in London destroyed hard drives of leaked files

A threat of legal action by the government that could have stopped reporting on the files leaked by Edward Snowden led to a symbolic act at the Guardian's offices in London

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/a ... yed-london

:)
Author:  jonbwfc [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:01 pm ]
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You know the quote from 1984? "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever."

I saw a tweet today "If you want a picture of Britain today, imagine a boot stamping on a macbook - forever."
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:21 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
You know the quote from 1984? "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever."

I saw a tweet today "If you want a picture of Britain today, imagine a boot stamping on a macbook - forever."


This seems appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwA
Author:  pcernie [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:37 pm ]
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Snowden NSA files: US and UK at odds over security tactics as row escalates

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/a ... ard-drives

No, the police weren't directed at all despite the fact we already know Miranda had travelled with his partner's work previous to this incident. May then has the cheek to say that it's strictly a decision for the police while crowing about people 'aiding terrorists' :roll:
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:52 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
Snowden NSA files: US and UK at odds over security tactics as row escalates

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/a ... ard-drives

No, the police weren't directed at all despite the fact we already know Miranda had travelled with his partner's work previous to this incident. May then has the cheek to say that it's strictly a decision for the police while crowing about people 'aiding terrorists' :roll:

It does all ignore that many of these terrorists would not exist if it were not for our illegal wars of occupation, or the support of certain regimes.
Author:  pcernie [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:11 pm ]
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Quote:
Mr Miranda told the BBC he was forced to disclose his social media passwords.

"I am very angry. This feeling of invasion. It's like I'm naked in front of a crowd," he said. "They said I had to co-operate or else I was going to jail."
...

Mr Miranda was detained under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

This allows police to hold someone at an airport, port or international railway station for up to nine hours for questioning about whether they have been involved with acts of terrorism.

Under schedule 7, if someone fails to co-operate they are deemed to have committed a criminal offence and could face up to three months in prison, a fine or both.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23776243

Can you even ask for legal representation in that instance? Or has that been taken away too? :x
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:19 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
Quote:
Mr Miranda told the BBC he was forced to disclose his social media passwords.

"I am very angry. This feeling of invasion. It's like I'm naked in front of a crowd," he said. "They said I had to co-operate or else I was going to jail."
...

Mr Miranda was detained under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

This allows police to hold someone at an airport, port or international railway station for up to nine hours for questioning about whether they have been involved with acts of terrorism.

Under schedule 7, if someone fails to co-operate they are deemed to have committed a criminal offence and could face up to three months in prison, a fine or both.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23776243

Can you even ask for legal representation in that instance? Or has that been taken away too? :x

You do not have right to representation I think. Or to tell anyone that you are detained. I could never supply my passwords as I do not remember them.
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