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Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:48 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | 'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb | |||||||||
'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb
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Author: | Spreadie [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb |
Bigger homes at a bigger cost no doubt. £200k for a breeding box or £300K for room to swing a cat. It's not as if plot space is at a premium either - councils are selling off huge swathes of waste land to the big housebuilders for next to nothing - as little as £10-£15k per plot, because they believe it will generate jobs and business for the area. The housebuilders have to hit a "green" score by sourcing materials locally as well as responsibly to get planning, but what usually happens if they put in plans for a Biomass plant which gets them the score they need; then they ship everything in from far and wide and the lowest cost they can. Easing of restrictions will just make even more money for the housebuilders - no savings or benefits are passed on the the buyers or local communities. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:57 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: 'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb | |||||||||
It would be better if the councils sub contracted the building and then they could sell the properties and either fund affordable homes or use them to house those on the social housing waiting lists. |
Author: | tombolt [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb |
Or if they sold off the plots to individuals and the individuals employed local builders to build their houses like they do in France, and I'm sure, the rest of Europe. I could afford that. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:16 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: 'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb | |||||||||
Self building is a good option. Not going to be done by this government. Self builders do not pay enough political donations to overwhelm the donations of the big house-builders. |
Author: | big_D [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:24 am ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: 'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb | |||||||||
That is the same in Germany. There are few 'estates' in the British sense. There are groups of houses, but it is still fairly rare for them to all be built on spec and sold. Usually you buy a plot of land, hire an architect and build the house you want. A lot of people also build a large part of the house themselves. They need to hire a master to keep an eye on the building of the house, but they can do large parts of it themselves. My wife's family have built or remodelled nearly a dozen houses over the years. When we ripped out the ground floor here, the whole family turned up and helped gut the house and rebuild it. It took several weekends, but we did most of it ourselves. |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb |
I would have thought the costs of building your own house would be higher than if a builder built it? I live in a crappy 3-bed terraced house. Yet the rooms are much larger than modern 3-bed semi detached houses. The upstairs toilet is the smallest room and is still larger than some of the "box" bedrooms I've seen. |
Author: | Spreadie [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:11 am ] | |||||||||
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I should add that those rates are for small and medium sized estates. Land for supersized estates is often bought for a token sum. One housebuilder got the land for over 500 homes on one estate for less than a million quid! I'm sure there are some other considerations there, but what happened to competition law? How on earth does an independent housebuilder compete on build cost when the big boys are getting land that cheap? |
Author: | big_D [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:23 am ] | |||||||||
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If you build it yourself, you don't pay for the labour. That can be a large part of the total amount. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 'Rabbit hutch' style homes face curb |
There are some very good Passivehaus modular constructions. |
Author: | tombolt [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:46 pm ] | |||||||||
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Yes, but they don't sell it at cost. They make a healthy profit as well as charging you the full cost of the land it's on that they got at a discount. |
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