x404.co.uk
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/

Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19952		 Page 1 of 1
Author:  pcernie [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/a ... ty-tariffs
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
Quote:
Energy companies must offer no more than four tariffs for each type of fuel in the first stage of a package of reforms, which aim to make the energy market more transparent and simplify pricing.

I heard that there were something like 11000 tariffs at one point. How on earth is anyone apart from the comparison sites able to analyse the deals available? It might help if they banned standing charges which are a throwback to nationalised ownership. It makes it harder to compare all the different deals with all the different standing charges.

Quote:
Ofgem has the power to levy a maximum fine of 10% of a company's annual turnover for breach of conduct although it has never gone up to this ceiling.

They should impose maximum fines. Once or twice and then it would get the energy companies to play straight.
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
Quote:
Energy companies must offer no more than four tariffs for each type of fuel in the first stage of a package of reforms, which aim to make the energy market more transparent and simplify pricing.


1. high
2. higher
3. highest
4. you can not afford it

in the last 5 years many have reduced there energy consumption by about 25%
energy companies have raised prices by about 28% over the same period

privatisation and competition was going too ... answers on a post card please ...
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
MrStevenRogers wrote:
in the last 5 years many have reduced there energy consumption by about 25%
energy companies have raised prices by about 28% over the same period

privatisation and competition was going too ... answers on a post card please ...

Since 1997 when my electricity bill was £20 a month it is now £35 a month. The increase is still manageable for me. Though others must be struggling. This last month I had problems and switched twice this month, when the cheapest deal I could get with my current supplier was £42 a month and the cheapest elsewhere was £40. Then my original supplier came back with an offer that was 3% lower than what I was on before so my bills will be around £34.06 a month.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
I don't mind standing charges as night costs seem to be less if you use more.
What they need to do is out your total energy use for the last year on every bill. That's the best number to plug into comparison sites to find the best deals.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
Amnesia10 wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
in the last 5 years many have reduced there energy consumption by about 25%
energy companies have raised prices by about 28% over the same period

privatisation and competition was going too ... answers on a post card please ...

Since 1997 when my electricity bill was £20 a month it is now £35 a month. The increase is still manageable for me. Though others must be struggling. This last month I had problems and switched twice this month, when the cheapest deal I could get with my current supplier was £42 a month and the cheapest elsewhere was £40. Then my original supplier came back with an offer that was 3% lower than what I was on before so my bills will be around £34.06 a month.

In 2012, £20.00 from 1997 is worth



£30.80 using the retail price index

So in real terms your electricity bill , using your soon to be tarrrif has only gone up £3.26 over the RPI, over16 years.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
bobbdobbs wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
in the last 5 years many have reduced there energy consumption by about 25%
energy companies have raised prices by about 28% over the same period

privatisation and competition was going too ... answers on a post card please ...

Since 1997 when my electricity bill was £20 a month it is now £35 a month. The increase is still manageable for me. Though others must be struggling. This last month I had problems and switched twice this month, when the cheapest deal I could get with my current supplier was £42 a month and the cheapest elsewhere was £40. Then my original supplier came back with an offer that was 3% lower than what I was on before so my bills will be around £34.06 a month.

In 2012, £20.00 from 1997 is worth



£30.80 using the retail price index

So in real terms your electricity bill , using your soon to be tarrrif has only gone up £3.26 over the RPI, over16 years.

I think that my bills are not that bad considering. I do have a computer on 24/7 but have replaced all my lights with LED so if every light is on I still only use 88 watts. Though even in 1997 I was all low energy bulbs even back then.



Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
I object to subsidising inefficient wind farms with my high bills.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
l3v1ck wrote:
I object to subsidising inefficient wind farms with my high bills.

I don't. Over time oil prices should rise as the cheap sources gradually disappear. Wind farms and solar should be relatively consistent. So over time they will become the cheapest form of energy production. Though the problem is who pays for that in the mean time. If we wait till oil prices are high enough that there is no need to subsidise renewables then things could be very different and our energy supplies would be much more unstable. It also encourages us to be more energy efficient which will become essential as we start to become an oil importer again.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
I don't object so much to solar. It works even on cloudy days, but wind power is a costly unreliable waste of money.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
l3v1ck wrote:
I don't object so much to solar. It works even on cloudy days, but wind power is a costly unreliable waste of money.

Together they could cover a large share of our demand. We could still need Thorium reactors to cover our base load.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Simplified gas and electricity tariffs to begin by 2014
I'd like to see thorium reactors.
Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
https://www.phpbb.com/