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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  PM: Spurs fans 'Yid' chants should not be prosecuted
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24133145
Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PM: Spurs fans 'Yid' chants should not be prosecuted
I'll have to click on the link just to find out what 'yid' means, I have no idea at the moment.
Author:  jonlumb [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:31 am ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
I'll have to click on the link just to find out what 'yid' means, I have no idea at the moment.


I'm guessing it's a derogatory term for Jews, as a shorter form of 'yiddish'.
Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: PM: Spurs fans 'Yid' chants should not be prosecuted
jonlumb wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
I'll have to click on the link just to find out what 'yid' means, I have no idea at the moment.


I'm guessing it's a derogatory term for Jews, as a shorter form of 'yiddish'.


Correct. The school where I went to had a strong Jewish intake, and that word was bandied around by some as a term of abuse. It’s about as offensive as n*gger would be to a black person.

This was my first exposure to that word, and I thought it as abusive (because that is what we were told) until I saw it being used in a magazine my parents bought me. It had a heavy American content, and one was using the word “Yiddish” - the magazine had side notes explaining terms, and thankfully Yiddish was defined. Being of American origina, the definition described it along the lines of a Jewish language spoken by American Jews.

Anyway, Wikipedia describes it in a wider scope.
Quote:
Yiddish is a High German language of Ashkenazi Jewish origin, spoken in many parts of the world. It developed as a fusion of different German dialects with adstrats of Hebrew, Aramaic and Slavic vocabulary and some traces of vocabulary from the Romance languages.[2][3] Yiddish orthography uses the Hebrew alphabet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language

I remember a friend of mine was upset by David Baddiel’s TV Fantasy Football programme encouraging the audience to call him a Jew and chant Yid once. I expect that this context wasn’t explained at the time. I’ve certainly not heard of it until today.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PM: Spurs fans 'Yid' chants should not be prosecuted
paulzolo wrote:
Correct. The school where I went to had a strong Jewish intake, and that word was bandied around by some as a term of abuse. It’s about as offensive as n*gger would be to a black person.

Strangely, black rappers use the 'n' word quite a lot.
Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PM: Spurs fans 'Yid' chants should not be prosecuted
l3v1ck wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
Correct. The school where I went to had a strong Jewish intake, and that word was bandied around by some as a term of abuse. It’s about as offensive as n*gger would be to a black person.

Strangely, black rappers use the 'n' word quite a lot.


Yes - and that’s where the word is being reclaimed (cf “queer”). However, it appears to be exclusive - if a white person were to use the “n” word, it would carry an entirely different message. Unless I learn otherwise, I expect the a similar rule could apply to the word “yid”.
Author:  big_D [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:31 pm ]
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They aren't being reclaimed, they are being further abused.

Queer = unusual
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