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Author:  pcernie [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Smoking ban considered for prisons

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24170235

Author:  steve74 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Smoking ban considered for prisons

Do they want another riot on their hands?
Seems that they also want to extend it to outside areas too:
Quote:
Inmates are currently allowed to smoke in their cells but a ban would prohibit this and extend to all parts of a prison, including exercise yards.


Seems a bit harsh. If the exercise yard is outside, what grounds do they have to enforce that?

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:47 pm ]
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How long before a con uses tax payers money to go to court to claim smoking is a human right?

Author:  big_D [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Smoking ban considered for prisons

steve74 wrote:
Do they want another riot on their hands?
Seems that they also want to extend it to outside areas too:
Quote:
Inmates are currently allowed to smoke in their cells but a ban would prohibit this and extend to all parts of a prison, including exercise yards.


Seems a bit harsh. If the exercise yard is outside, what grounds do they have to enforce that?

if someone has asthma, it can be set off by cigarette smoke. For me, it is enough to have somebody 100M away to smoke and I will start to get short of breath. That would mean the exercise yard would be a no-go area for me.

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Smoking ban considered for prisons

big_D wrote:
steve74 wrote:
Do they want another riot on their hands?
Seems that they also want to extend it to outside areas too:
Quote:
Inmates are currently allowed to smoke in their cells but a ban would prohibit this and extend to all parts of a prison, including exercise yards.


Seems a bit harsh. If the exercise yard is outside, what grounds do they have to enforce that?

if someone has asthma, it can be set off by cigarette smoke. For me, it is enough to have somebody 100M away to smoke and I will start to get short of breath. That would mean the exercise yard would be a no-go area for me.
at 100m outside that sounds more psychosomatic than an actual physical cause

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Author:  Spreadie [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Smoking ban considered for prisons

bobbdobbs wrote:
big_D wrote:
if someone has asthma, it can be set off by cigarette smoke. For me, it is enough to have somebody 100M away to smoke and I will start to get short of breath. That would mean the exercise yard would be a no-go area for me.
at 100m outside that sounds more psychosomatic than an actual physical cause

Indeed. Even if the wind was blowing the smoke directly towards you, it would have dispersed so much as to be unnoticeable long before it reached you.

Author:  JJW009 [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:30 am ]
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Spreadie wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
big_D wrote:
if someone has asthma, it can be set off by cigarette smoke. For me, it is enough to have somebody 100M away to smoke and I will start to get short of breath. That would mean the exercise yard would be a no-go area for me.
at 100m outside that sounds more psychosomatic than an actual physical cause

Indeed. Even if the wind was blowing the smoke directly towards you, it would have dispersed so much as to be unnoticeable long before it reached you.

He's not the only one though. I had a mate at work who was just as sensitive. I think true allergies can be triggered by incredibly low concentration.

Author:  big_D [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Smoking ban considered for prisons

Spreadie wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
big_D wrote:
if someone has asthma, it can be set off by cigarette smoke. For me, it is enough to have somebody 100M away to smoke and I will start to get short of breath. That would mean the exercise yard would be a no-go area for me.
at 100m outside that sounds more psychosomatic than an actual physical cause

Indeed. Even if the wind was blowing the smoke directly towards you, it would have dispersed so much as to be unnoticeable long before it reached you.

It isn't psychosomatic. Often I'll start coughing and wheezing and I'll look around trying to find out why.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:06 am ]
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I do think that the insides should be smoke free and the exercise yards should be the one exemption. The problem is that prisoners do not have access to the yard more than an hour a day. Though once snout is no longer prison currency what will they replace it with?

Author:  l3v1ck [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Smoking ban considered for prisons

Why not group prisoners into smoking and non smoking.
Prisons usually have wings, have designated smoking and non smoking ones.

Author:  steve74 [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Smoking ban considered for prisons

l3v1ck wrote:
Why not group prisoners into smoking and non smoking.
Prisons usually have wings, have designated smoking and non smoking ones.

The article says...
Quote:
an estimated 80% of prisoners thought to be smokers.

Probably not practical really, they could probably fit the non-smokers into a handful of cells!

Author:  rustybucket [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:26 am ]
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That'll end well

:roll:

Have they not got better things to think about?

Author:  Spreadie [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:03 pm ]
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Quote:
an estimated 80% of prisoners thought to be smokers.


...and the remaining 20% use cigs and tobacco as currency anyway

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:20 pm ]
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I do not smoke but do think that they need exemptions. Though you would also need to recruit only smoking prison officers.

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