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Author:  pcernie [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Over half of schools failing in religious education

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24399813

It's important for the social cohesion mentioned, but I suspect it has more to do with less people giving a crap in general as time goes on. Even when I was a kid few of us or the teachers really cared about RE, and that was in religion-bound Belfast!

Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:09 pm ]
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I was taught by priests between the ages of 11 and 18. They gave a crap about the RE classes, pretty much nobody else did.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Over half of schools failing in religious education

Is it really that important? It has very little real benefit in the workplace.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:18 pm ]
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Every GCSE subject at our school had three lessons a week......... except RE which had two.

Author:  Zippy [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:32 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Is it really that important? It has very little real benefit in the workplace.

Depends what you want to be.
I got a well-rounded religious education and it helped me decide that organised religion wasn't for me, if kids don't get information about religions (all religions) then are we just raising the next generation of extremists and bigots? IME people have to be educated if they are to be able to choose for themselves.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:57 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Is it really that important? It has very little real benefit in the workplace.

Yes, because all education must be vocational. There is no other purpose for it.

Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:38 pm ]
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TBH I've found that educating kids on other religions makes them more accepting of those who are different.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:17 pm ]
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Zippy wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
Is it really that important? It has very little real benefit in the workplace.

Depends what you want to be.
I got a well-rounded religious education and it helped me decide that organised religion wasn't for me, if kids don't get information about religions (all religions) then are we just raising the next generation of extremists and bigots? IME people have to be educated if they are to be able to choose for themselves.

I do see that element as useful but most drop it at 13/14 before they start studying for exams. The same for me. No organised religion in my home, and even the Jedi is not practiced that much.

jonbwfc wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
Is it really that important? It has very little real benefit in the workplace.

Yes, because all education must be vocational. There is no other purpose for it.

That is the attitude of government. I do think that a general studies which prepares kids for the real world would be as useful, no need for any exam.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:06 am ]
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We didn't very a choice. We had to do it for GCSE.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:16 am ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
We didn't very a choice. We had to do it for GCSE.

I must have been lucky to opt out then?


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Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:51 am ]
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I think the biggest bollocking I ever got at school was for my mock GCSE RE paper.
One of the questions was: Can you name eight of the ten commandments?
I wrote: No. (which was technically as the correct answer to th equestion.)
The teacher had a right go at me. With most subjects that would have bothered me, but with RE I just didn't care. I still managed to get a C on the real thing though.

Author:  hifidelity2 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:24 am ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
We didn't very a choice. We had to do it for GCSE.

I must have been lucky to opt out then?


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We did RE in 1st and 2nd form (al big school) but could drop it in the 3rd form when deciding what O levels to do. CAnt remember what it clashed with but dropped it asap as even back then (when 10/11) i thought it was a load of (*^*%)(&^$

Author:  JJW009 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:31 am ]
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I don't know anyone I was at school with that didn't drop RE in the 3rd year.

Author:  Spreadie [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:03 am ]
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hifidelity2 wrote:
We did RE in 1st and 2nd form (al big school) but could drop it in the 3rd form when deciding what O levels to do. CAnt remember what it clashed with but dropped it asap as even back then (when 10/11) i thought it was a load of (*^*%)(&^$

Yep. Apart from one visit to a Sikh temple, early on in the first year at comprehensive school, our RE consisted almost entirely of a boring old bint doing her level best to indoctrinate the class into the Christian faith. Every time I pointed that out I got kicked out of class - which was both good and bad, for fairly obvious reasons.
JJW009 wrote:
I don't know anyone I was at school with that didn't drop RE in the 3rd year.

Same here. Maybe that's why the old girl tried so hard to hook us in - job security. ;)
Zippy wrote:
I got a well-rounded religious education and it helped me decide that organised religion wasn't for me, if kids don't get information about religions (all religions) then are we just raising the next generation of extremists and bigots? IME people have to be educated if they are to be able to choose for themselves.

Very true. When my son asked if he should believe in god, I told him to pay attention in RE and draw his own conclusions. A couple of years later he brought it up again and said he thought it was a load of bunk.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:26 am ]
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JJW009 wrote:
I don't know anyone I was at school with that didn't drop RE in the 3rd year.

Same here.

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