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Author:  pcernie [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:20 pm ]
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... nderground

What could possibly go wrong?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:47 pm ]
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The Tube is remarkably safe. Though as an occasional tourist the cost of tube fares is ridiculous.
Author:  davrosG5 [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:44 am ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Though as an occasional tourist the cost of tube fares is ridiculous.


I've always considered that the cost of public transport in London is actually pretty good compared to other cities. If you make a lot of single journeys and buy a new ticket each time you're undeniably correct but that would be a bonkers way to approach the situation, especially if you're arriving in the capitol by train (from memory it costs about £6 extra to add an all day travel card to the train ticket). Gets a bit more complicated for a multi-day visit but then you might as well just get an Oyster card.

As for the article itself, I'm somewhat perplexed as to how having no ticket offices would affect safety, especially if the staff from those offices are being redeployed onto platform and station customer service roles.
I'm not quite clear how Boris thinks they'll be able to cut the number of train drivers though especially if he wants to actually run more trains overall. Is he proposing having automated trains run entirely via the signalling system?
Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:15 pm ]
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davrosG5 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
Though as an occasional tourist the cost of tube fares is ridiculous.


I've always considered that the cost of public transport in London is actually pretty good compared to other cities.

+1
Even with the hefty rise in fares over the last few years it's still much better than most places.
Author:  hifidelity2 [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:17 pm ]
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davrosG5 wrote:

I'm not quite clear how Boris thinks they'll be able to cut the number of train drivers though especially if he wants to actually run more trains overall. Is he proposing having automated trains run entirely via the signalling system?

Yes the idea is to have unmanned trains (like the DLR and like they do in Paris and many other metros / undergrounds)
Author:  davrosG5 [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:35 pm ]
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hifidelity2 wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:

I'm not quite clear how Boris thinks they'll be able to cut the number of train drivers though especially if he wants to actually run more trains overall. Is he proposing having automated trains run entirely via the signalling system?

Yes the idea is to have unmanned trains (like the DLR and like they do in Paris and many other metros / undergrounds)


I didn't realise the DLR was driverless. Hmm, I can't see the RMT taking this very well.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:00 pm ]
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I can't see most existing tube lines going driverless. The cost and hassle of upgrading a line already in use would be immense. Not to mention the delays etc while the work was being done. I'm surprised they didn't consider it for crossrail etc though.
Author:  hifidelity2 [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:43 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
I can't see most existing tube lines going driverless. The cost and hassle of upgrading a line already in use would be immense. Not to mention the delays etc while the work was being done. I'm surprised they didn't consider it for crossrail etc though.

The Victoria, Jubilee Central line (and Northern line when they finish the current upgrade) could all run driverless
Author:  pcernie [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:32 pm ]
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Amazon in talks to turn Tube ticket offices into post offices

http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ ... es-1201893

:)
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:54 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
Amazon in talks to turn Tube ticket offices into post offices

http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ ... es-1201893

:)

It does make a lot of sense for commuters. It could make collection of goods much easier for those that live in London especially if you go past it every day. It is not such a great idea for people like me who might want to pay for travel with a chip and signature card.
Author:  ShockWaffle [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:10 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
It is not such a great idea for people like me who might want to pay for travel with a chip and signature card.

What?
Author:  hifidelity2 [ Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:43 am ]
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ShockWaffle wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
It is not such a great idea for people like me who might want to pay for travel with a chip and signature card.

What?

the ticket machines do chip and sign all Be it with a limit however the roll out of using you contactless Dr / Cr card to pay will have happened before they close the ticket offices
Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:05 pm ]
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hifidelity2 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
I can't see most existing tube lines going driverless. The cost and hassle of upgrading a line already in use would be immense. Not to mention the delays etc while the work was being done. I'm surprised they didn't consider it for crossrail etc though.

The Victoria, Jubilee Central line (and Northern line when they finish the current upgrade) could all run driverless


Boris wants driverless trains.
Author:  ShockWaffle [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:05 pm ]
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And Bob Crow is thick enough to throw all the strikes he needs to get them.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:14 pm ]
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ShockWaffle wrote:
And Bob Crow is thick enough to throw all the strikes he needs to get them.
just what I was thinking.

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