Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Thousands of Sky users without phone and broadband 
Author Message
Legend

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm
Posts: 45931
Location: Belfast
Reply with quote
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ ... ke-1207406

_________________
Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/


Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:41 pm
Profile
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
They should hurry up and get rid of copper across the network backbone. Then leave it to the last leg, that will reduce the impact on how many are hit when the cable thieves strike.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:37 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm
Posts: 10691
Location: Bramsche
Reply with quote
Yep, they should dig the copper up themselves and sell it to fund the cable.

_________________
"Do you know what this is? Hmm? No, I can see you do not. You have that vacant look in your eyes, which says hold my head to your ear, you will hear the sea!" - Londo Molari

Executive Producer No Agenda Show 246


Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:16 am
Profile ICQ
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
They don't own the copper. They also don't own the backbone network. They're providing a service that runs over other people's infrastructure. There's nothing for them to sell, other than their customer's details and related information. Putting in their own national data infrastructure sufficient to handle the load of their customer base would be titanically expensive.

You get what you pay for. The majority of sky customers pay very little for their broadband connection. In fact, that's Sky's pretty much only selling tactic - 'Buy Sky TV, get broadband for pennies'. There's not going to be any investment in the infrastructure when you're operating - or by buying it, endorsing - that business model.


Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:25 am
Profile
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm
Posts: 8603
Location: location, location
Reply with quote
Amnesia10 wrote:
They should hurry up and get rid of copper across the network backbone. Then leave it to the last leg, that will reduce the impact on how many are hit when the cable thieves strike.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD


First line of the article says they stole fibre optic cable

_________________
Support X404, use our Amazon link
Get your X404 tat here
jonlumb wrote:
I've only ever done it with a chicken so far, but if required I wouldn't have any problems doing it with other animals at all.


Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:28 am
Profile WWW
Doesn't have much of a life

Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am
Posts: 1911
Reply with quote
saspro wrote:
First line of the article says they stole fibre optic cable

Read before comment? What kind of internet heresy are you preaching here?


Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:09 pm
Profile
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
saspro wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
They should hurry up and get rid of copper across the network backbone. Then leave it to the last leg, that will reduce the impact on how many are hit when the cable thieves strike.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD


First line of the article says they stole fibre optic cable

I know, but if they cleared the network of copper then advertised the fact that they now have a fully fibered backbone it might deter the thieves. It might help if they mark it as fibre as well. The government need to bring in tougher laws for stealing metals and even tougher laws for melting it down. If the rewards are minuscule in comparison to the fines then the rewards will need to be a lot higher to risk it.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:41 pm
Profile
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm
Posts: 8603
Location: location, location
Reply with quote
Amnesia10 wrote:
I know, but if they cleared the network of copper then advertised the fact that they now have a fully fibered backbone it might deter the thieves.

You'll never clear copper out of the network, you can't run a regular landline on pure fibre.

_________________
Support X404, use our Amazon link
Get your X404 tat here
jonlumb wrote:
I've only ever done it with a chicken so far, but if required I wouldn't have any problems doing it with other animals at all.


Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:51 pm
Profile WWW
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
saspro wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
I know, but if they cleared the network of copper then advertised the fact that they now have a fully fibered backbone it might deter the thieves.

You'll never clear copper out of the network, you can't run a regular landline on pure fibre.

I was not thinking of the last leg. Though fibre to the exchanges would be enough. There will still be copper between the exchange and the end user. So any further assaults on the network would be minimal, and it might only impact the residents of a street or block.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:37 pm
Profile
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm
Posts: 8603
Location: location, location
Reply with quote
Amnesia10 wrote:
I was not thinking of the last leg. Though fibre to the exchanges would be enough. There will still be copper between the exchange and the end user. So any further assaults on the network would be minimal, and it might only impact the residents of a street or block.


Exchanges are fibre between them and the only copper that comes out is purely for households within the last mile (apart from power)

_________________
Support X404, use our Amazon link
Get your X404 tat here
jonlumb wrote:
I've only ever done it with a chicken so far, but if required I wouldn't have any problems doing it with other animals at all.


Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:13 pm
Profile WWW
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
saspro wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
I was not thinking of the last leg. Though fibre to the exchanges would be enough. There will still be copper between the exchange and the end user. So any further assaults on the network would be minimal, and it might only impact the residents of a street or block.


Exchanges are fibre between them and the only copper that comes out is purely for households within the last mile (apart from power)

In which case there is bugger all that BT can realistically do other than educated the public that the network is solely fibre. Maybe the thieves will see the adverts.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:53 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 11 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.