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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... ringfenced

Yes, Liam's been licking arse recently...

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I wonder how our doctor in the forums will agree with that that assessment?

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Easy. He is a muppet. IiRC we spend less of our GDP than most other comparable countries on the NHS. The problem is the ring fencing applies to only certain aspects. We need more money but in the right areas, not the wrong areas. The NHS is already having cuts made. Sounds like he just wants everything to collapse further.

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the wrong area(s) of NHS funding is, the 'management' ...

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cloaked_wolf wrote:
IiRC we spend less of our GDP than most other comparable countries on the NHS.

Correct, very few advanced economies get what we do for noticeably less, and the most productive nations are largely to the left of us on this chart. Which clearly suggests that rather than ring fencing against decreases, it is a worthy sector for more cash.
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It might be more accurate to say that others have tested to destruction the idea that throwing money into the pit can ever fill it, because we certainly haven't. The idea we seem intent on testing is that an endless series of restructurings can fix it. A sensible technocratic overhaul is doubtless in order, but politicians with an electoral cycle to worry about can't afford the necessary patience.


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MrStevenRogers wrote:
the wrong area(s) of NHS funding is, the 'management' ...

Yes you could blame Thatcher for bringing in thousands of them. :oops:

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MrStevenRogers wrote:
the wrong area(s) of NHS funding is, the 'management' ...

Yes you could blame Thatcher for bringing in thousands of them. :oops:

Or the others who've had almost a quarter of a centuary to change it since she left.

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Amnesia10 wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
the wrong area(s) of NHS funding is, the 'management' ...

Yes you could blame Thatcher for bringing in thousands of them. :oops:


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The number of managers has risen 84% since 1999

that was in 2010, so i dont think Thatcher can be held responsible for hirings after she had left office

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Amnesia10 wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
the wrong area(s) of NHS funding is, the 'management' ...

Yes you could blame Thatcher for bringing in thousands of them. :oops:

Or the others who've had almost a quarter of a centuary to change it since she left.

Yes but New Labour were closet Tories anyway, so there was no change in policy likely. They also brought in a target culture which the Tories wanted anyway.

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