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Author:  jonbwfc [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
A BBC-by-subscription 'would be richer', MPs told

Basically, three different studies we re done into turning the BBC from the licence fee model to a subscription model similar to Sky or VM. All three studies concluded that the BBC would massively increase it's income by doing so, possibly close to doubling it, and in the process sales of other subscription services would presumably fall as that extra £2bn a year has to come from somewhere..

The amazing part is there are millions of people in the UK who would apparently willingly pay three times the current licence fee for the same service.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
jonbwfc wrote:
The amazing part is there are millions of people in the UK who would apparently willingly pay three times the current licence fee for the same service.

Two words, and the second one's 'that!'
Author:  Spreadie [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
I wonder if they'd consider this to not only increase revenue but reduce costs - no more detector vans, roving inspectors or legal battles with non-payers who claim it is an infringement of their rights. Afterall, the BBC is saying you cannot own a TV, or indeed an device capable of displaying broadcast content, unless you buy a licence; regardless of whether you'd watch BBC content.

Given that the BBC is state owned, despite the Royal Charter granting content broadcast independence, does it receive all of the licence fee, or is some syphoned off as tax by the government?

If there is a portion of tax in there, are we likely to see the TV Licence continue regardless of the BBC's decision on whether or not to go subscription only? I can't see the government passing up an opportunity to levy some tax, despite the additional tax income they'd probably get from the subscription model.

Where did I put that tinfoil...
Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
Spreadie wrote:
Given that the BBC is state owned, despite the Royal Charter granting content broadcast independence, does it receive all of the licence fee, or is some syphoned off as tax by the government? ..

Isn't some given to Channel 4 etc?
Author:  Spreadie [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
l3v1ck wrote:
Spreadie wrote:
Given that the BBC is state owned, despite the Royal Charter granting content broadcast independence, does it receive all of the licence fee, or is some syphoned off as tax by the government? ..

Isn't some given to Channel 4 etc?

I don't know, is it? I thought the other channels were funded by selling advertisement space?
Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
l3v1ck wrote:
Spreadie wrote:
Given that the BBC is state owned, despite the Royal Charter granting content broadcast independence, does it receive all of the licence fee, or is some syphoned off as tax by the government? ..

Isn't some given to Channel 4 etc?


Quote:
Channel 4 is a publicly-owned, commercially-funded public service broadcaster. We do not receive any public funding and have a remit to be innovative, experimental and distinctive. Channel 4 works across television, film and digital media to deliver our public service remit, as outlined in the 2003 Communications Act and most recently the 2010 Digital Economy Act.

http://www.channel4.com/info/corporate/about

Quote:
In 2007 due to severe funding difficulties, the channel sought government help and was granted a payment of £14 million over a six-year period. The money would have come from the television licence fee and would have been the first time that money from the licence fee had been given to any broadcaster other than the BBC.[25] The plan was scrapped by The Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, Andy Burnham, ahead of "broader decisions about the future framework of public service broadcasting".[26] The broadcasting regulator Ofcom released their review in January 2009 in which they suggested that Channel 4 would preferably be funded by "partnerships, joint ventures or mergers".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_4#Funding
Author:  pcernie [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
The Beeb plays the ratings game as it is, you could kiss anything they can't put in a boxset goodbye with the argument of 'nobody was watching it anymore'. Yeah, because it had it's budget cut and nobody wanted to go down with it.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
l3v1ck wrote:
Spreadie wrote:
Given that the BBC is state owned, despite the Royal Charter granting content broadcast independence, does it receive all of the licence fee, or is some syphoned off as tax by the government? ..

Isn't some given to Channel 4 etc?

I think some used to go to ITV for religious programs, but they opted to say no to the money so they could have different programs on a Sunday.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
The BBC are also taking money from the production budget to fun the pension pot.
Things need to change at the BBC.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Keep the BBC as it is, For the Sake of Sky
ProfessorF wrote:
The BBC are also taking money from the production budget to fun the pension pot.
Things need to change at the BBC.

That is happening all over the place to cover final salary schemes. They need to massively increase contributions from all to cover the low rates of return that the funds are getting.
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