x404.co.uk
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/

Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=21199		 Page 1 of 1
Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:45 am ]
Post subject:  Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
Quote:
Claire Perry, conservative MP of the default porn-block campaign fame, has urged teachers to ban phones in schools and parents to take away devices, all in the name of child internet safety. While speaking at the Westminster eForum Keynote Seminar on Childhood and the internet today, the Prime Minister's "Special Advisor on preventing the sexualisation and commercialisation of childhood" delivered a new "lock up your daughters" catchphrase for the internet age, swooping in to teach parents and teachers a thing or two about tough love.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/201 ... ng-banning
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
In some ways, I completely agree with. Phones aren't necessary and I managed all the way through primary and secondary schools without needing a mobile phone.
Author:  HeatherKay [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
cloaked_wolf wrote:
I managed all the way through primary and secondary schools without needing a mobile phone.


Mobile phones hadn't been invented when I was at school. We had the phone in the school office, and a pay phone in the entrance hall. Why do children need a mobile phone while in school anyway?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
cloaked_wolf wrote:
In some ways, I completely agree with. Phones aren't necessary and I managed all the way through primary and secondary schools without needing a mobile phone.

Same here, but then when I was at school the mobile phone looked like this.

Image
Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
Amnesia10 wrote:
cloaked_wolf wrote:
In some ways, I completely agree with. Phones aren't necessary and I managed all the way through primary and secondary schools without needing a mobile phone.

Same here, but then when I was at school the mobile phone looked like this.

Image


When I was at school, phones were only mobile within a radius allowed by the length of the wire.
Author:  HeatherKay [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
Amnesia10 wrote:
but then when I was at school the mobile phone looked like this.


Actually, there were mobile phones during my school days. It's just they generally had a large and expensive motor car attached to them and required a GPO licence to use. :lol:
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
Most of the time I used one of these.

Image
Author:  ProfessorF [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
Who needs these modern fangled textbooks and notebooks anyway? We all coped perfectly well with a chalk and slate for years.
It's been discussed here frequently, although we're not a secondary.
Some staff have a zero tolerance, others say that as their phones are a big part of who the students are, and how they organise and interact with other people, it's foolish to take that away. Many students use their phones for taking notes, setting reminders about deadlines, doing quick research with, listening to music on while they write. There can be a place for them in the classroom. Our building is pretty opaque to mobile signals, however, so everything has to come via the wifi network, which means we can monitor and block various sites.
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
But textbooks and notebooks are directly involved in learning. It's not as if the teacher says "Right now if you open xyz app on your phone".... - if that happened, the schools would need to ensure all kids had smartphones. Listening to music - I used to do that on my walkman, in the library. The only time I would listen to it in class was discreetly ie earphone lead going up blazer sleeve and hand-on-head posture. Otherwise we'd get bollocked and sent to detention.

Quote:
Many students
How many is many? I will concede that when I go to talks, meetings and lectures that I use my iphone to take notes, largely because I have no pen/paper. In school, you have exercise books which the teachers can inspect/mark.
Author:  big_D [ Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
As CW says, of the phone is being integrated into the learning experience, then everybody needs one. If they are using it for Chat, Facebook, Twitter and co. then it has no place in a classroom. In the playground, that is another matter.

When someone uses a smartphone in one of my teleconferences, I usually carry on for a couple of minutes, then ask them to confirm what I have just said to the customer on the other end of the line... They soon learn not to tune out the meeting.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
Everyone of my students - 16 to 18 - has a smart phone.
We try to police the use, of course, and we do rejoice in the luxury of a building with a faraday cage that means mobile signals are rare. That means it's wifi only, which if we chose to, could be fire walled as we see fit. FWIW, we don't block Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat etc. (but a lot of sites are blocked - which is handy when you're teaching game design, market research and the like and you receive a Bloxx message. Some threads on this site are blocked frequently, and not the ones you'd imagine).
The students aren't expected to be using Facebook. Just because they can, doesn't mean the should. All part of growing up.

In a secondary, perhaps things should be different.

cloaked_wolf wrote:
Quote:
Many students
How many is many? I will concede that when I go to talks, meetings and lectures that I use my iphone to take notes, largely because I have no pen/paper. In school, you have exercise books which the teachers can inspect/mark.


You would be staggered at the number of students that show up with an iPad, but no pen or paper. A few even show up with laptops, and disregard the machines provided. Some lessons I'll grab a handful of pens and a ream of paper if I'm expecting them to do work that requires it, otherwise they're free to get on with whatever software they see fit to complete the task, as long as it's compatible, much as they would do if they were in work.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
I think it would be better all round if we just banned Claire Perry.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Claire Perry: ban phones in schools
jonbwfc wrote:
I think it would be better all round if we just banned Claire Perry.

Shame we have to wait till 2015 before we can vote on that. :lol:
Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
https://www.phpbb.com/