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Just inside the hard-shoulder of the M25 would be better...
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| Author: | pcernie [ Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | May would seek passport checks between Scotland and England |
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... nd-england There's important issues there obviously, but I'm in no doubt that she's really agitating like the rest of her party over independence. |
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: May would seek passport checks between Scotland and England |
i wonder if we will rebuild hadrians wall ... |
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| Author: | rustybucket [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:57 am ] | |||||||||
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Just inside the hard-shoulder of the M25 would be better... |
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:12 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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that should hold, confine and contain all the Scottish MP's ... |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: May would seek passport checks between Scotland and England |
Unless Scotland manage to join the EU and have to sign up to the Schengen Agreement, such a move would be pointless as people coming into Scotland from other countries would still have to have their passports checked when they arrive. There's be no increase in risk to the UK. If Scotland did join the Schengen Agreement then any passport checks would be almost feutile anyway. People could just fly into Scotland without a passport and cross into England away from the major road crossings. |
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| Author: | paulzolo [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:37 am ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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BTW - passport controls in airports is already a thing. Just send passengers to/from Scotland through those. |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: May would seek passport checks between Scotland and England |
All just pushes the Scots into voting yes. |
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| Author: | big_D [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:37 am ] | |||||||||
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They don't need a passport to get to the UK from Europe at the moment anyway. Coming to the UK, my fiance only had her Germany identity card. |
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| Author: | jonbwfc [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:11 pm ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: May would seek passport checks between Scotland and England | |||||||||
Only at initial thought. Scots need to travel out of Scotland just as much as other people need to come in. If you're a salesman for a Scottish company that sells most of it's good in the UK or EU, not being in the EU (which, despite salmon's protestations that it will 'just work', there is no immediate guarantee of membership at succession) would be a significant hampering to your business. Probably only for a fairly short time - a couple of years maybe - until EU membership was sorted out but things are quite precarious for lots of people right now on both sides of the referendum divide. It all makes sense if and only if you're a Scot whose world view is 'we're continually put upon and held back by the perfidious English' and therefore any cost to be rid of the English is worthwhile, and greater costs simply mean more impetus to change more quickly. That's why whenever some new story breaks you always get several comments along the lines of 'another win for the yes vote'. It's massive confirmation bias in action. There are valid reasons for Scotland to be an independent nation, several of which I have a lot of sympathy with. But to me the SNP have done things arse-backwards. You work out all the details of how succession would happen then you put it to the public vote, with full knowledge of exactly what the arrangements will be in the event of succession. You don't put it to the vote and when people start asking questions say 'well, that'll just stay the same, obviously' or 'we'll work that out later'. It's bloody stupid. |
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| Author: | ShockWaffle [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: May would seek passport checks between Scotland and England |
Conversely, nobody from abroad is going to waste time planning these things out with them until they see a serious reason to. It's all too contingent. The EU will respond to Scotland's accession request when it is received, as will every other entity that would deal with them as a newly founded state. Promises made at distance would be withdrawn. |
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