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Author:  pcernie [ Sat May 17, 2014 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Utah lawmaker proposes firing squad executions
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... -injection

Back of the head with a gun if you are going down that route?
Author:  ShockWaffle [ Sun May 18, 2014 12:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Utah lawmaker proposes firing squad executions
It's very hard to find executioners for such a violent type of put down. The best candidates are surely already residents of death row.
Therefore the obvious solution is some form of televised death contest. Take everyone on death row who is scheduled for execution next year, put them all into an arena with a variety of interesting weapons, and promise that the last man standing has acccess to plenty of cocaine and hookers until next year's event.

Try to make sure the guys who are there for cocaine fuelled prostitute murer binges are at a competitive disadvantage though.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun May 18, 2014 8:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Utah lawmaker proposes firing squad executions
If I was on death row I'd much prefer a quick bullet(s) to the head than a slow death by injection.
ShockWaffle wrote:
It's very hard to find executioners for such a violent type of put down.

Surely the process could be automated. It's not hard to get a machine to pull a trigger.
Author:  belchingmatt [ Sun May 18, 2014 8:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Utah lawmaker proposes firing squad executions
l3v1ck wrote:
If I was on death row I'd much prefer a quick bullet(s) to the head than a slow death by injection.
ShockWaffle wrote:
It's very hard to find executioners for such a violent type of put down.

Surely the process could be automated. It's not hard to get a machine to pull a trigger.


Someone is ultimately responsible for 'pulling the trigger' regardless of physical contact with the final mechanism.
Author:  davrosG5 [ Sun May 18, 2014 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Utah lawmaker proposes firing squad executions
belchingmatt wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
If I was on death row I'd much prefer a quick bullet(s) to the head than a slow death by injection.
ShockWaffle wrote:
It's very hard to find executioners for such a violent type of put down.

Surely the process could be automated. It's not hard to get a machine to pull a trigger.


Someone is ultimately responsible for 'pulling the trigger' regardless of physical contact with the final mechanism.


Yes, someone is ultimately responsible however removing the physical in your face horror of pulling the actual trigger from the individual(s) reduces the psychological impact on the individual(s) performing it. Pushing a button/turning a key in a physically remote location from where the gun(s) will actually be fired insulates the executioner from the effects of they are actually dong to another human being.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun May 18, 2014 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Utah lawmaker proposes firing squad executions
belchingmatt wrote:
Someone is ultimately responsible for 'pulling the trigger' regardless of physical contact with the final mechanism.
That's no different to someone currently being responsible for pushing the button that causes lethal drugs to be administered. The point is it's more remote than someone actually putting a gun to someone elses head and pulling the trigger.
Author:  paulzolo [ Tue May 20, 2014 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Utah lawmaker proposes firing squad executions
belchingmatt wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
If I was on death row I'd much prefer a quick bullet(s) to the head than a slow death by injection.
ShockWaffle wrote:
It's very hard to find executioners for such a violent type of put down.

Surely the process could be automated. It's not hard to get a machine to pull a trigger.


Quote:
Utah already has a tradition of execution by firing squad, with five police officers using .30-caliber Winchester rifles to execute Ronnie Lee Gardner in 2010, the last execution by rifle to be held in the state.


When Gardner was executed, I remember commentators saying that the firing squad was the most physiologically distressing option for the executioners, because it involved direct sight of the target. Even then, they arranged lighting to make it as humane as possible for the shooters.

belchingmatt wrote:
Someone is ultimately responsible for 'pulling the trigger' regardless of physical contact with the final mechanism.

I saw a documentary in the 1990s about execution. I remember a couple of things. First off, someone whose job it was to ensure that the methods of execution were as quick as possible for the prisoner saying that is was really hard to “break a human body” (I remember that phrase) to the point that it will instantly cease to function.

Secondly, they explained the really complex mechanical and legal process involved in ensuring that the person pressing the button was not directly involved with the killing. There is an almost rube goldberg mechanism which means that pressing a button may, or may not, cause the death to occur. Generally, there is more than one button, one which is randomly selected to trigger the system. The buttons must be pressed at the same time, so there is immediate confusions to who set the system off. This is analogous to the firing squad having one live round and a series of blanks in the other guns.

In the case of the lethal injection (which this programme seems dot concentrate on), there are then a series of plungers and mechanisms that eventually end up delivering the lethal cocktail of drugs, in a strict sequence so that the prisoner is anaesthetised, put to sleep, and then killed.

Usually, the people who press the buttons are homeless who are in need of cash. No names are taken, cash is paid, and they are sent on their way afterwards.

So, there is legal and physical confusion over how each execution is administered. Each execution is recorded as a murder (as it has to be legally recorded as such), but is then logged as unsolved, and it remains so. The result is that states with capital punishment tend to have a higher rate of unsolved prison murders.

I’d expect some kind of mechanical device is devised which aims a gun at point blank range - with no “wriggle” factor. A press of a button and your prisoner is put to sleep, and shot. A head shot is preferable, but knowing the USA’s fondness for open casket funerals, aiming the the heart would likely be a better choice.

Well, this is a jolly subject.
Author:  jonlumb [ Tue May 20, 2014 1:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Utah lawmaker proposes firing squad executions
I still don't understand why they aren't just going for nitrogen as the method of execution. There's no pain like electrocution and lethal injection, it doesn't produce any toxic substances like the gas chamber does, and undoing a valve on some gas cylinders is about as detached as the executioner can get.
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