http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27593504
Something tells me there's a lot of witnesses and probably footage in this day and age that the police won't be too interested in
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| Author: | pcernie [ Tue May 27, 2014 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27593504 Something tells me there's a lot of witnesses and probably footage in this day and age that the police won't be too interested in
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Wed May 28, 2014 7:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court |
It racist for me to say our morals are better than theirs? If so, call me a racist. Killing your own family like that is sickening! |
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| Author: | jonlumb [ Wed May 28, 2014 7:58 am ] | |||||||||
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Given that their actions have a religious origin I don't think that would be racism. |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Wed May 28, 2014 9:18 am ] | |||||||||
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I see it as more of a cultural thing. |
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| Author: | jonlumb [ Wed May 28, 2014 9:20 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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I guess when you have such a strongly enforced state religion, it becomes very murky as to what's religion, what's culture etc. |
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| Author: | pcernie [ Wed May 28, 2014 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27614359 I wouldn't be surprised. |
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| Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Wed May 28, 2014 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court |
I know arranged marriages were the norm in the western world up until a couple of hundred years ago. Does anyone know what happened if either the bride or groom refused? Sometimes I feel the third world are behind the western world by a few hundred years. Maybe in time they will "catch up"? |
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| Author: | ShockWaffle [ Wed May 28, 2014 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court |
Arranged marriages were never the norm in Western Europe outside of the royalty. It was fairly common for men to refuse to marry girls they had inadvertently knocked up, and before the Victorian period when morals went through something of a reformation, it probably wasn't so uncommon as you'd suppose for preggers ladies to still refuse to marry those who had got them that way. I believe public shaming was the main punishment for transgression in these matters; it was much more effective in those days than it is now. The commonly held idea that some poor country holds a set of public virtues that we outgrew some centuries ago lacks nuance. Their social values evolved from a different starting point to ours, and were propelled in a different direction by more than just a different religion to ours. We are brute individualists and have been for a thousand or more years. They are more directed towards family concerns, which we do understand, and clans, which we don't. We focus our attention on justice and fairness, they are interested in something more like the Roman conception of piety (famously, no real English translation exists for that). These aren't different moral timelines, they are different landscapes. |
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| Author: | big_D [ Thu May 29, 2014 5:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court |
Several Muslim women have been killed in Germany over the last few years, because they had German boyfriends and their families didn't like it. 
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| Author: | pcernie [ Thu May 29, 2014 6:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court |
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... first-wife OMJF. Time for a culture change! |
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