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Author:  pcernie [ Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:14 pm ]
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ry-options

Know who could have sorted them out? That loony you went to war against. The same sort of loony who always winds up in charge no matter what we do.
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:33 pm ]
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Quote:
west must intervene in Iraq
bollocks we should ...
Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:17 am ]
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It's interesting.
The west took the (depending on your opinion) moral high ground an intervened against Hussain and Assad.
That loosened their grip on power allowing the extremists to move in to take advantage, thus giving the west more problems.
People understandably don't like dictators, but they do offer the advantage of controlling the nutters.
If the west had only gone into Afghanistan and not into Iraq, and hadn't given Syrian rebels air support, would the middle east be as unstable as it is? I doubt it.
Author:  ShockWaffle [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:57 am ]
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When did we give air support to Syrian rebels? We didn't do [LIFTED] to loosen Assad's grip on power.

What he did though was release all of his islamic nutters from jail to join ISIS; and then not target ISIS as heavily as he did the more secular opposition, ensuring that this would be the result.

We have been played, over and over again.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:19 am ]
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Dear Tony,

[LIFTED] right off.

Signed
The rest of us.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:45 am ]
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ShockWaffle wrote:
When did we give air support to Syrian rebels? We didn't do [LIFTED] to loosen Assad's grip on power.

What he did though was release all of his islamic nutters from jail to join ISIS; and then not target ISIS as heavily as he did the more secular opposition, ensuring that this would be the result.

We have been played, over and over again.

Didn't we enforce a no fly zone over rebel territory and areas of fighting?
Author:  ShockWaffle [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:50 pm ]
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No, we talked about it, but what we did was diddly squat. There was probably more discussion about it on this forum than in the corridors of power.
Author:  pcernie [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:21 pm ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27865849

It's being re-announced later in a voice you can take seriously ;)
Author:  Spreadie [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:42 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
ShockWaffle wrote:
When did we give air support to Syrian rebels? We didn't do [LIFTED] to loosen Assad's grip on power.

What he did though was release all of his islamic nutters from jail to join ISIS; and then not target ISIS as heavily as he did the more secular opposition, ensuring that this would be the result.

We have been played, over and over again.

Didn't we enforce a no fly zone over rebel territory and areas of fighting?

That was in Libya, iirc.
Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:44 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27865849

It's being re-announced later in a voice you can take seriously ;)


All of a sudden, we’re talking to Iran.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:51 pm ]
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Spreadie wrote:
That was in Libya, iirc.

Ah, that's what I was thinking of.
Author:  pcernie [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:58 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
pcernie wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27865849

It's being re-announced later in a voice you can take seriously ;)


All of a sudden, we’re talking to Iran.


Quote:
The BBC News Channel's chief political correspondent Norman Smith said this was "pretty categorical" and Mr Hague had "closed the door" to any UK involvement in military action.


Oooh, shut that door!
Author:  Spreadie [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:14 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
All of a sudden, we’re talking to Iran.

Talking is preferable to bombing.
Author:  pcernie [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:33 pm ]
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Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:06 pm ]
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Pot, meet kettle: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27864603

The idea of Boris describing anything as "unhinged" seems quite bonkers given his track record, but in this case, he's making more sense than Blair.
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