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| cloaked_wolf wrote: If I were in Govt, I'd renege on all PFI and NHS debts, wipe the slate clean and kick out a lot of unnecessary managers. | |
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| Author: | pcernie [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole |
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... ypthecated More than happy to pay for it, but I'd want tax loopholes and sweetheart deals shut down at the same time. Sort the frigging trusts out while you're at it. The NHS is far too politicized and subsequently crippled in this climate because successive scumbags wanted to sell it off to their friends. |
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| Author: | davrosG5 [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole |
So we're talking about providing an actual breakdown of what National Insurance is used for and presumably increasing it or a completely separate PAYE type tax on top? Gordon Brown twigged that people didn't object to paying more in NI if they knew it would go to the NHS. The problem is that once it gets to the NHS large chunks of it start disappearing into things the majority of people wouldn't be all that happy about funding - like paying ridiculous PFI payments (I'm thinking here of Peterborough and Satmford Trust haemorrhaging money paying for the new Peterborough City hospital as an example). |
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| Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole |
If I were in Govt, I'd renege on all PFI and NHS debts, wipe the slate clean and kick out a lot of unnecessary managers. |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole |
NHS tax..... Isn't that already called National Insurance? |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole |
I'd want proof of medical insurance for people coming in at ports/airports, or they don't get let in. My mother-in-law used to work at a London hospital. The abuse of the system was massive. |
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:08 am ] | |||||||||
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:08 am ] | |||||||||
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:18 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole | |||||||||
i would like NI put back to 10% and not increased by any means not that i mind paying NI but the will have to deal with that budget anything outside of that, sack the management ... |
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| Author: | ShockWaffle [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:42 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole | |||||||||
Some of those debts are held in the name of the UK govt, so you would be choosing a voluntary sovereign default. Most of the rest' we're legally obliged to honour, so you would also have to implement a new constitutional act placing yourself above the law. I may have to not vote for you, should you stand for election. |
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| Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole |
Well obv I wouldn't say anything about it until after I was elected. 
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| Author: | ShockWaffle [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole |
That's good enough for me. You have my vote sir. |
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| Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:08 am ] | |||||||||
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Given the recent correlation between what politicians said before being elected and what they did after being elected, I don't think anyone would believe you anyway  .
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| Author: | paulzolo [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:53 pm ] | |||||||||
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Well, this is what I thought. NI covers: NHS, certain contribution based benefits, and (at one time) used to cover dentistry and eye care. |
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| Author: | ShockWaffle [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NHS tax is floated by Liberal Democrats to fill 30bn hole |
We don't usually have a link between income source and expenditure in this country. That's because it sounds like a good idea at the time, but becomes either meaningless (when shortfalls are made up by the general account) or a straight jacket (when a developed nation like the USA is no longer able to maintain highways and bridges adequately because higher mpg and lower car usage means their petrol taxes are no longer sufficient for the purpose). It's probably ok to fund the BBC that way, but not anything with infrastructure or life and death implications. |
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