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Author:  pcernie [ Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:50 pm ]
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ast-policy

And some very good questions they ask too.
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:01 pm ]
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they ask questions give demands but provide no answers
let me present to you a prediction which will happen over the next few years or so

HOLOCAUST ...
Author:  pcernie [ Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:32 pm ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
they ask questions give demands but provide no answers
let me present to you a prediction which will happen over the next few years or so

HOLOCAUST ...


They've every right to ask the questions though. Cameron's banging on about the (laughably over-hyped) threat to our 'Christian country' as he would have it*, meanwhile the Christians in the Middle East and elsewhere are being slaughtered on a daily basis. He's fudging it, and that's putting it politely. Russia isn't gonna repeat it's Syrian trick or anything here...

* And MI5 and 6 have repeatedly proved to be incompetent with our homegrown miscreants, especially when you combine their 'talents' with the Met's army of incompetents and conspirators. It's only a matter of time before we outsource the stupidity to fcuking G4S.
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:42 pm ]
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holocaust

you miss understand me not what is happening now
but what is going to happen to them, the enemy ...
Author:  pcernie [ Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:07 pm ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
holocaust

you miss understand me not what is happening now
but what is going to happen to them, the enemy ...


The West hasn't got the stomach for wiping out Boko Haram never mind IS. And not when the Syrian wound's lying open, Gaza, the pull-out from Afghanistan... I wonder if I can place a bet on Afghanistan :oops:
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:08 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
holocaust

you miss understand me not what is happening now
but what is going to happen to them, the enemy ...


The West hasn't got the stomach for wiping out Boko Haram never mind IS. And not when the Syrian wound's lying open, Gaza, the pull-out from Afghanistan... I wonder if I can place a bet on Afghanistan :oops:


don’t bet on it ...
we now have are own suicide bombers, they are called drones
we can build them by the millions if need be

the war has now changed
they used to be able run and then hide
now they can hide but cant run

please make no mistake, we are being invaded (that’s why are armed forces have been recalled)
the face and nature of this nation will change over the next few years and that has already started ...
Author:  ShockWaffle [ Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:43 am ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
don’t bet on it ...
we now have are own suicide bombers, they are called drones
we can build them by the millions if need be

the war has now changed
they used to be able run and then hide
now they can hide but cant run
Have I taken time recently to mention that you are a demented loon who will one day be found naked in a tree, assassinating your neighbour's pets with an air rifle?
please make no mistake, we are being invaded (that’s why are armed forces have been recalled)
the face and nature of this nation will change over the next few years and that has already started ...

Have I taken the time recently to mention that you are a demented loon who will one day be caught with a toilet full of drowned puppies?
Author:  pcernie [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:58 pm ]
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Former top general calls on Obama to wipe out Isis in wake of Foley killing
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... ey-killing

Not likely, son. Drone war or not, you still have to send the troops in afterwards if you're to have any kind of lasting success. Or someone's troops...
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:06 am ]
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demented loon, ho hum ...

we already have had a near beheading/public murder on the streets of the UK of a British solider
i wonder how many more it will take before we pull our heads out of the sand (while we still have them) ...

ps. love puppies especially on toast ...
Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:12 pm ]
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Israel are the bad guys, right

Notice the word 'suspected'. And the interesting use of 'executes' rather than 'murders'.
Author:  pcernie [ Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:35 pm ]
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Hammond: UK won't work with Assad in Islamic State battle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28892755

Like when they weren't talking to the IRA as it blew up the mainland in the 90's, presumably.
Author:  pcernie [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:23 am ]
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Theresa May pledges new measures to tackle British jihadis

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28905776

Quote:
Any groups believed to be inciting someone into terrorism could also be banned, even if this could not be proved, said the home secretary.


Well that's totally in the spirit of our justice system. It'll fit nicely with detaining people on a whim at airports and abducting people on behalf of other governments.

I'm not sure I believe even 500 UK citizens have gone to the Middle East, never mind some of the figures from just a few days ago. And what the fcuk does that say about the incompetence of the cabinet and our security services? Our airport security? The whole narrative stinks as badly as 'IS are like nothing we've ever seen'. Really? I remember a little group called al-Qaeda that they sprung from. And they weren't actually marching across military zones in full view of everyone. Entire governments with all their security apparatus expect us to believe IS just appeared one day?

I'm sick to the back teeth of being sold this bollocks.
Author:  ShockWaffle [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:28 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
The whole narrative stinks as badly as 'IS are like nothing we've ever seen'. Really? I remember a little group called al-Qaeda that they sprung from. And they weren't actually marching across military zones in full view of everyone. Entire governments with all their security apparatus expect us to believe IS just appeared one day?

Did anybody actually say anything along those lines, or did your ignorance contribute that narrative?
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:05 pm ]
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ShockWaffle wrote:
pcernie wrote:
The whole narrative stinks as badly as 'IS are like nothing we've ever seen'. Really? I remember a little group called al-Qaeda that they sprung from. And they weren't actually marching across military zones in full view of everyone. Entire governments with all their security apparatus expect us to believe IS just appeared one day?

Did anybody actually say anything along those lines, or did your ignorance contribute that narrative?


you mister have reached the grounds of 'out of order'

taliban > al-qaeda > isis > is
are the enemy that have been invoked to start/have/create a war

remember the first rule of warfare
1st rule ... 'you require an enemy'

sadly the created enemy have taken on a whole life all of their own and a even sadder fact is that we will have to deal with it ...

mods please close this thread, many thanks Steve ...
Author:  pcernie [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:29 pm ]
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Libyan capital under Islamist control after Tripoli airport seized
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... ation-dawn

Might be better just naming this the 'Islamist uprising update thread' at this rate.
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