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Author:  paulzolo [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  UKIP gains first elected MP
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The UK Independence Party has gained its first elected MP, with Douglas Carswell taking the seat of Clacton by 12,404 votes.

Mr Carswell, who defected from the Conservatives, knocked his old party - which enjoyed a 12,068 majority at the 2010 election - into second place.

UKIP leader Nigel Farage said he had "shaken up British politics".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29549414

So, basically, Clacton has the same MP as before, but representing UKIP. Rotherham next.

Quote:
Clacton by-election: result in full
Douglas Carswell (UKIP) 21,113 (59.75%)

Giles Watling (Con) 8,709 (24.64%)

Tim Young (Lab) 3,957 (11.20%)

Chris Southall (Green) 688 (1.95%)

Andy Graham (LD) 483 (1.37%)

Bruce Sizer (Ind) 205 (0.58%)

Howling Laud Hope (Loony) 127 (0.36%)

Charlotte Rose (Ind) 56 (0.16%)

Turnout was 51%


Noting that the LibDems are now behind the Greens.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UKIP gains first elected MP
UKIP are the reason Labour might win the next election.
Some Tory voters switch to UKIP in marginal seats, giving Labour victories that they probably otherwise wouldn't have had.
If UKIP want real power they should consest seats only in Labour held areas with the intention of forcing a coalition with the Tories after the election.
Author:  hifidelity2 [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UKIP gains first elected MP
l3v1ck wrote:
UKIP are the reason Labour might win the next election.
Some Tory voters switch to UKIP in marginal seats, giving Labour victories that they probably otherwise wouldn't have had.
If UKIP want real power they should consest seats only in Labour held areas with the intention of forcing a coalition with the Tories after the election.

Given the result in Manchester Labour are in trouble to
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:04 pm ]
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its going to be a very interesting general election ...
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UKIP gains first elected MP
hifidelity2 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
UKIP are the reason Labour might win the next election.
Some Tory voters switch to UKIP in marginal seats, giving Labour victories that they probably otherwise wouldn't have had.
If UKIP want real power they should consest seats only in Labour held areas with the intention of forcing a coalition with the Tories after the election.

Given the result in Manchester Labour are in trouble too.

The reporting of that one has been quite.. interesting. The fact widely stated is that labour's vote dropped by several thousand. This is true. The fact that apparently isn't being stated is that the turnout was lower by an almost exactly similar proportion, so in terms of the views of the people who bothered to vote, labour's share hardly changed at all. I was told this last night in the pub by someone who was quite a prominent member of the campaigning group of one of the other parties, so it's unlikely to be just spin.

So was this actually bad for labour? Or not? The press seemed uniformly of the opinion that it was but you could equally say that it was a case of showing that faith in our electoral system is at an all time low among supporters of all parties.

In terms of turnout, does anyone know what the state in Clacton was?
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UKIP gains first elected MP
Clacton turn out 51% a high turn out for a by election
Manchester 36% turn out about average for a by election ...
Author:  pcernie [ Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UKIP gains first elected MP
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... act-tories

He can say and do anything he wants right now since nothing's certain.
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