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Florida toddler fatally shoots himself with father's gun while parents load car
Two-year-old Kaleb Ahles reportedly lifted gun from glove compartment in car and turned it so that it faced his chest and squeezed the trigger
Lauren Gambino in New York
theguardian.com, Thursday 22 January 2015 20.53 GMT

A two-year-old Florida boy died on Wednesday after accidentally shooting himself with his father’s .380 caliber handgun that he found in the family car.

The toddler, Kaleb Ahles, climbed into the front seat of the family’s vehicle while his parents carried boxes to move out of their home in Tarpon Springs, located about 30 miles north-west of Tampa.

Kaleb, alone in the car, crawled across the seat and found the gun that was stored in the glove compartment, sheriff Bob Gualtieri of the Pinellas County sheriff’s office said during a Wednesday evening press conference.

Kaleb then grabbed the gun, turned the barrel toward his chest, and squeezed the trigger, Gualtieri said.

His parents heard a loud “pop” and ran toward the car, deputies said. His mother, Christina Nigro, immediately began CPR while another family member who was there to help with the move called 911.

“It’s just one of those things that happens where everything lined up the wrong way, where we had a two-and-a-half year old that was able to take a gun, pick it up turn it around and he shot himself dead center in the middle of the chest,” Gualtieri said.

Deputies arrived at the home just before 5pm on Wednesday, and an ambulance rushed Kaleb to a nearby hospital,

At a press conference held in the family’s neighborhood, Gualtieri confirmed that the toddler had shot himself, and was not shot by someone else, the Miami Herald reported.

“He probably barely got the trigger pulled,” Gualtieri said.

The sheriff said it appears there was no wrongdoing, and the parents are not facing charges, saying that the parents have been punished enough by the loss of their son.

“It appears to be another tragic situation,” Gualtieri said. “It’s just one of those things that happens where everything happens the wrong way.”

Florida law requires gun owners to secure their loaded firearm in the presence of children younger than 16 years old. However, a person can only be held criminally liable if the minor accesses a gun and exhibits it in a public place, or brandishes it in a threatening or angry manner.

Detectives said the gun was secured in the glove department of the car.

Cecilia Barreda, a spokeswoman with the Pinellas County sheriff’s office, confirmed on Thursday that detectives were still investigating the incident, and the parents are, as of now, not facing charges.

The detectives “do believe the gun was stored properly,” Barreda said. She said additional details about the incident could not be provided at this time.

The child’s grandfather, a retired Tampa police detective also named Kevin Ahles, apparently drove to the scene immediately after learning of his grandson’s death.

“A great little kid was killed today,” he told the Miami Herald. “That’s all there is to say.”




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“It appears to be another tragic situation,” Gualtieri said. “It’s just one of those things that happens where everything happens the wrong way.”

Florida law requires gun owners to secure their loaded firearm in the presence of children younger than 16 years old. However, a person can only be held criminally liable if the minor accesses a gun and exhibits it in a public place, or brandishes it in a threatening or angry manner.

Detectives said the gun was secured in the glove department of the car.


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Detectives said the gun was secured in the glove department of the car.

Secured?

Yes, it took the devilish skills of a two year to defeat that security.

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The NRA probably believe that all it needed was a good two year old with a sidearm to prevent this tragedy. :roll:

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The sheriff said it appears there was no wrongdoing,

Bollocks! They were wrong in leaving a loaded lethal weapon in an unlocked glove box that was in the reach of children.
They should be prosecuted to serve as a warning to other parents to take gun security seriously. If it saves even one child in the future it would be worth it.
Obviously I feel sorry for the parents, but this wasn't an accident, there is someone to blame, and it's the parents themselves.

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No wrong doing? Why was the gun in an unsecured glove box? Why wasn't it in a gun safe?

Especially if you have kids!

The parents are guilty of death through negligence or something like that, I would say.

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The parents are guilty of death through negligence or something like that, I would say.

Agreed. In pretty much any country with half an ounce of sense leaving a loaded firearm where someone - especially a child - can get it, with the almost inevitable consequences, would be considered manslaughter through negligence or similar. Serious jail time.

I imagine they're going through hell to be fair. They may never get over it but the fact is until the population of the US starts treating guns with the respect they deserve, this is going to keep happening.


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Stupid.

F*cking.

Americans.

That is all.


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US boy, three, shoots both parents in New Mexico
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31082294

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31082294
And another similar incident. This time a three year old boy shoots both parents.
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A three-year-old American boy has shot his mother and father with the same bullet after pulling a gun from her handbag, police say.
The incident took place in a motel room on Saturday afternoon in Albuquerque in the state of New Mexico.
The toddler was apparently reaching for an iPod.
The bullet passed through his father's buttock and hit his mother, who is eight months pregnant, in the arm. Both parents are said to be recovering.

So he 'popped a cap in his ass' :lol:

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At least the children have been taken into care and they are considering charges of negligence in this case.

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