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Sadness to anger: the evolution of Obama's response to mass shootings – video | US news | The Guardian
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NY Times to Run First Front-Page Editorial in Nearly 100 Years: "End the Gun Epidemic" - Hollywood Reporter
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/n ... ont-846175

They're not wrong, or alone

Daily News Runs Cover Calling NRA Boss a "Terrorist" - Hollywood Reporter
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/d ... ing-845736

Hopefully this is the start of something.

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Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:56 pm
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wouldnt it be easier to have a "no mass shooting incident today thread", though it would be mostly empty.

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It seems that the FBI has its’s own idea of what constitutes a mass shooting.

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While the FBI study discusses “mass shootings or killings,” its graphs were filled with cases that had nothing to do with mass killings. Of the 160 cases it counted, 32 involved a gun being fired without anyone being killed. Another 35 cases involved a single murder.

It’s hard to see how the FBI can count these incidents, which make up 42 percent of its 160 cases, as “mass killings.” They plainly don’t fit the FBI’s old definition, which required four or more murders, nor even its new one of at least three murders.

And these non-mass shootings, with zero or one person killed, drive much of the purported increase in the number of attacks. If you consider cases where no one or only one person was killed, 50 came in the last seven years of the period the FBI examined and only 17 during the first seven years.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/12/the-fbis-b ... shootings/

So if a maniac runs around, emptying an assault rifle into a people, and fewer than three die, it doesn’t count.
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For example, in 2010, the FBI reports that there were 29 of these active shooter cases, but just nine involved more than a single fatality.

The FBI study also ignored 20 out of what should have been a total of 113 cases where at least two people were killed.

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Apparently they've no idea what constitutes a mass shooting by any sensible definition.

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Obama looks to expand background checks for guns with executive action | US news | The Guardian
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Read the whole thing - it's staggering. A ban on research?!

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https://www.rt.com/usa/325670-paradise- ... -shooting/

Another one. This time the cops gun accidentally drew itself, grabbed the cops hands, aimed itself at the guys neck, shot twice, holstered itself and then forced the cop to lie and try to remove the casing as evidence.

Clearly the cop played no part in this.

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He's a remarkably good shot by accident, isn't he?

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Fogmeister wrote:
https://www.rt.com/usa/325670-paradise-cop-cleared-shooting/

Another one. This time the cops gun accidentally drew itself, grabbed the cops hands, aimed itself at the guys neck, shot twice, holstered itself and then forced the cop to lie and try to remove the casing as evidence.

Clearly the cop played no part in this.

FFS!


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US man shot dead by his son after killing three 'in dispute over washing machine' | US news | The Guardian
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Yes, that is the right date.

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Oregon militia threatens showdown with US agents at wildlife refuge | US news | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... ife-refuge

That could bring up some serious underlying problems in the States - Oregon is actually quite liberal in comparison!

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'Obama, come and take it': gun show business booms amid fear of regulation | US news | The Guardian
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You have to read that, it's both funny and frightening.

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Oregon militia threatens showdown with US agents at wildlife refuge | US news | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... ife-refuge

That could bring up some serious underlying problems in the States - Oregon is actually quite liberal in comparison!


If the Oregon militiamen were Muslim or black, they'd probably be dead by now | Wajahat Ali | Opinion | The Guardian
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I can't help thinking that's true - it was certainly the first thought in my mind when I initially read of the takeover.

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If the Oregon militiamen were Muslim or black, they'd probably be dead by now | Wajahat Ali | Opinion | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... mmon-bundy

I can't help thinking that's true - it was certainly the first thought in my mind when I initially read of the takeover.

IIRC, the ACLU made some noise about that when there was the Open Carry fuss a year or two ago. A black man openly carrying an assault rifle would've been shot on sight, but rednecks do it and it's just fine.

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