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Author:  hifidelity2 [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31744029
Good is all I can say

Author:  AlunD [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

hifidelity2 wrote:

+1 :roll:

Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

Whether it's proportional or not, you're chuffing stupid to do something like that without having checked out how hot the water you could get landed in by doing so was.

Author:  davrosG5 [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

jonbwfc wrote:
Whether it's proportional or not, you're chuffing stupid to do something like that without having checked out how hot the water you could get landed in by doing so was.


Becuase, of course, all people engaing in criminal activity think they will get caught.

Author:  ShockWaffle [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

That's no indicator that they aren't stupid.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

AlunD wrote:
hifidelity2 wrote:

+1 :roll:

+2
Their country, their rules.
I've never been anywhere that felt as safe as Singapore. Strong punishments that work as deterrents are one reason for that.

Author:  belchingmatt [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

davrosG5 wrote:
jonbwfc wrote:
Whether it's proportional or not, you're chuffing stupid to do something like that without having checked out how hot the water you could get landed in by doing so was.


Becuase, of course, all people engaing in criminal activity think they will get caught.


Ignorance is no defence.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

davrosG5 wrote:
Becuase, of course, all people engaing in criminal activity think they will get caught.

Well. obviously not no. But you'd be a fool to do anything criminal without having some idea of what the possible consequences might be if you DID get caught. All pre-meditated crime surely involves a benefit vs risk calculation.

Author:  big_D [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

l3v1ck wrote:
AlunD wrote:
hifidelity2 wrote:

+1 :roll:

+2
Their country, their rules.
I've never been anywhere that felt as safe as Singapore. Strong punishments that work as deterrents are one reason for that.

Seems to have also been the German TV news opinion last night.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

jonbwfc wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:
Becuase, of course, all people engaing in criminal activity think they will get caught.

Well. obviously not no. But you'd be a fool to do anything criminal without having some idea of what the possible consequences might be if you DID get caught. All pre-meditated crime surely involves a benefit vs risk calculation.

Such as plane spotting in the middle east. Didn't some blokes get arrested for that this week?

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Singapore to cane Germans for vandalism

l3v1ck wrote:
jonbwfc wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:
Becuase, of course, all people engaing in criminal activity think they will get caught.

Well. obviously not no. But you'd be a fool to do anything criminal without having some idea of what the possible consequences might be if you DID get caught. All pre-meditated crime surely involves a benefit vs risk calculation.

Such as plane spotting in the middle east. Didn't some blokes get arrested for that this week?

Yep, I heard something about it on the radio. As that point they'd been in jail for 10 days or so. Apparently they'd checked and knew that taking photos was against the law locally but the state's (UAE, I think) police pulled them just for writing the plane details down.

It's fair to say that you can check if something is legal and the local plod can still not follow the same rules but that's not the case in the story in the OP. There's no 'Oh, I thought it was OK' argument there, simply that the punishment to us looks disproportionately severe.

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