MEP and general election candidate Janice Atkinson has been expelled by UKIP for "bringing the party into disrepute".

Ms Atkinson's chief of staff Christine Hewitt has also been expelled, a party spokesman said.

Do UKIP actually have any members left apart from Nigel? They seem to have expelled quite a few of them.

Maybe MrStevenRogers will have to stand for them

that would mean becoming part of the problem ie. management, no thanks
i would sooner be outside the tent pissing in then inside the tent pissing out
but i do want a referendum on EU membership ...

Really? Wow, I had no idea.

I'm curious as how you'd respond if there was a referendum and it came back strongly in favour of the EU.

that would mean becoming part of the problem ie. management, no thanks
i would sooner be outside the tent pissing in then inside the tent pissing out

but i do want a referendum on EU membership ...

Which basically means abdicating your responsibility to your convictions. Pissing into the tent makes no difference. They’ll just move it, or zip the door shut.


A vote for UKIP is not a vote for a referendum. They may have changed their stance by demanding one from other parties, but if they did get to power, there would not be one. They’s basically take that as a mandate for leaving.

A referendum should involve more than the annoying circular argument you see week in and week out on QuestionTime where the ranting morons on both sides just retread the same old path with no resolution. It’s the “stuck record” method of arguing where the theory goers that if you repeat it often enough, more people will believe it. A sensible person would just turn his or her back on the whole sorry mess and carry on with more important things.

The best case scenario in which Britain would secure a deal with the EU, implement a unilateral free trade arrangement and go for the maximum deregulation on EU rules such as scrapping all climate change targets. This would increase the UK’s GDP by 1.55%. But Persson said: “In political terms this would make Margaret Thatcher look like a socialist.”

this study does not include free unfettered trade with the rest of the world such as China, USA, Asia and (old) Commonwealth countries
only trading within the EU block, regardless of external trading be that EU or ourselves.

Beyond the border: Opening up the UK economy to trade with the rest of the world – including the USA, India, China and Indonesia – is essential to economic growth post-Brexit. However, this would mean exposing UK firms and workers to whole new levels of competition from low-cost countries, and would therefore be politically very sensitive.

we will still trade with the EU but have our hands untied to trade with others without EU interference, looking forward to that day ...

Yes, it does.



It will crucify us.

ownership of the UK’s privatised companies (energy and public transport as examples) by EU state owned utilities has already crucified us
as private investors are competing with EU state owned Govt. backed investment in national privatised UK companies. i wonder who has more muscle

if it was going to crucify us by lowering wages big business in the UK would be biting at the bit to leave the EU
but big business in the UK have cheap labour and lower wages via EU free movement, that is what is crucify us ...

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