http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-32857408

Bloody hell...

Lol


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Sorry, but given what the driver and the police and other "clean-up" services have to go through, I can understand that the rail staff don't have pleasant feelings towards such callous idiots.

Maybe if enough people hear such statements, it will make them think twice about such selfish acts. They kill themselves, but they destroy the lives of many other in the process.

I was sat at the front of a train when it hit someone once. It isn't just the driver and the police who are affected.

Besides, they're dead. It's not like you're going to hurt their feelings.


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That's mentally ill people you're talking about. If they could think rationally they wouldn't do it.


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I'm not sure that statement is entirely accurate t be honest. From an external observers point of view suicide very often appears to be an irrational act but from the other side it may seem the only sensible choice. Sadly, if the individual succeeds you can't ask them what they were thinking.
Furthermore, suicide in this sort of context is likely to have been a premeditated act as most people don't have ready access to a train moving at speed. Granted the individual may be looking for a fairly foolproof and irretrievable method but choosing to jump in front of a train is effectively forcing someone else to actually kill you and to deal with the resulting trauma of having done so and that's just the driver.

Jumping in front of a train is an inherently selfish way to kill yourself as it's not just person committing suicide who is affected it spreads out to anyone who knew you (which is true of any suicide) but it also pulls in bystanders and a lot of them.

Edit

Going back and reading the article again we don't actually know this was suicide, it could have been an accident at a level crossing ir something.

I've checked it was a jumper, which is the rail industry terminology for it. One of our regulars many years back ( at the old site ) was a train driver and he hit a jumper, never was the same afterwards.

& it took me an extra 2 hrs to get home

OK I know totally selfish but......

Not really that selfish. After all, the bloke involved doesn't care any more.

I think how you respond to this says a lot about you.

My Dad committed suicide last year, it is a selfish act sure, you can't argue with that, but to the person suffering from the illness it seems like the only way out.
I'm not sure you'd react the same way if someone was crippled and wanted to be euthanised. Doesn't seem like the same thing? To the person with mental illness it feels the same.

If you're annoyed that someone died and it caused inconvinience to yourself, you're a [LIFTED] [LIFTED], imagine if it was your wife, son, father.

Often jumpers do so because they feel like it's a sure fire way and they may have tried other methods which have failed (not always the case).

It's nothing to do with inconvenience.

The guy forced an unsuspecting train driver to plough into him making him witness a bloody and gruesome death. And the passengers on the train are also affected.

It's not the same as being euthanised. First off that is usually discussed with loved ones and doctors etc... It's usually done in a peaceful way with family around the person etc...

Would you say the same if the guy ran into a shopping mall full of people and cut off his head? Meh, "it's the same thing after all."

Yes, the outcome is the same but the methods are very different and the method can also change how other people are affected.

It is when you complain about being late home. (You personally didn't but my post wasn't aimed at you alone).



I didn't say he didn't I admitted it was a selfish act for those reasons and more. Neither did I say it was the same as being euthanised, I said it was comparable. Suicide itself,



No, but that's slightly different, going into the mall has not helped him kill himself, he's just done that to put his suicide more into the public eye.




Sure, if you like.

One of my relatives committed suicide by hanging. Found by his primary school kids. Someone will always be suffering from suicide, regardless the method.


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Being euthanased is one thing, in a clean, comforting environment. Committing suicide by yourself is a way out; but you still involve a lot of people who have to clean up after you, although apart from your family and friends (which usually discover the body), they are professionals, so have had some training.

Getting some unsuspecting, untrained person to kill you is something totally different!

I was so much comparing it to the practice as the feelings of the person who's died.