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| Author: | pcernie [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:50 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Carbon targets may be too tough, says John Prescott | |||||||||
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... -emissions
As someone who doesn't quite buy the whole 'Inaction will kill us all unless we do something NOW' spiel, this whole thing is just laughable... |
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| Author: | Nick [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:55 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Carbon targets may be too tough, says John Prescott | |||||||||
So if you are wrong and we do nothing.... And if they are wrong but we cut emissions anyway.... I don't think it's worth the risk. |
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| Author: | pcernie [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Carbon targets may be too tough, says John Prescott |
Look, I'm all for being as efficient as possible within reason, it's the blatant nonsense around the whole issue I have a problem with - I mean, right now, we pretty much are doing nothing. And by the sound of Mr Prescott, will probably continue to do nothing for decades to come... It's hard to have faith when what seems to be a major part of the UK's approach to global warming (even that phrase simplifies it too much in many cases) was the work of an economist brought in by Gordon Brown 
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| Author: | Linux_User [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Carbon targets may be too tough, says John Prescott |
The only reason they don't want to take drastic action sooner is because they daren't take action themselves which will damage the economy and then watch as other nations don't do the same and gain a competitive advantage. Having seen the map where they predict which areas of Britain will be submerged after the sea levels rise, I personally don't want to take the risk. Besides, it has the added bonus of making our air that much cleaner. |
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| Author: | pcernie [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Carbon targets may be too tough, says John Prescott |
That's what I mean, and is why I could do without all the BS about 'leading the world on this issue', not to mention the blatant rip-off of drivers and money-making schemes and proposals around plastic bags, motorway taxes etc - and I live at home and don't drive 
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| Author: | paulzolo [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:14 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Carbon targets may be too tough, says John Prescott | ||||||||||||||||||
According to a lot of output on this subject this year from those who appear to be “in the know” on such things, we are already over the tipping point and there is nothing we can do. So really, it doesn’t matter any more and we can do what we want. That is if you want to buy into the whole system. I am firmly of the belief that we know far too little on the subject of the planet’s climate systems to make a full judgement on what is happening. MIT made some interesting findings about methane, and it is possible that these increases are the planet "going through another natural cycle of warmer and colder times". More investigation is needed, but this illustrates how little we know about this subject. http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... cycle.html |
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| Author: | ProfessorF [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Carbon targets may be too tough, says John Prescott |
Humanity is responsible for (depending on who you believe) ~5% of CO2 output. We in the UK account for something like 0.2% of that 5%, IIRC. The oceans, decaying plant matter and volcanic activity release by far and away the most CO2 into the atmosphere. Coupled to the fact that the sun has a huge driving force on our weather (and water vapour too for that matter) and we've only really got 28 years or so of good data from satellites... I'm still not buying it. That said, at work we are committed to a 10% reduction in energy and water usage year on year. This is good in a few ways, especially as we're a charity and the less we spend on the overheads, the more we have to spend on the business at hand as it were. |
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