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| Author: | pcernie [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Labour fixated by Corbyn, Tories take advantage |
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... opposition Its not just Corbyn, the dumb gits put Harman in charge! But yeah, that article is what I've been saying for months. George is an evil genius and Labour haven't the wit to realise a left winger is exactly what they'll need, especially when it comes to the EU Tory cul de sac. |
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| Author: | ShockWaffle [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Labour fixated by Corbyn, Tories take advantage |
When you have your left wing pied piper leading you into a swamp, will you then blame Ruper Murdoch for your predictable failure to capture extra votes? |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:04 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Labour fixated by Corbyn, Tories take advantage | |||||||||
It's an interesting dilemma for them. Move left and regain the Scottish vote, and risk losing the English vote. Or, don't move left, increasing the chances of English vote, but likely not winning back the Scottish vote. |
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| Author: | jonbwfc [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:06 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Labour fixated by Corbyn, Tories take advantage | ||||||||||||||||||
That's the broad logic with one twist - the strategy is to move to the right somewhat to attract more moderate tory voters in marginal constituencies. It's basically 'gaming' the FPTP system. So you only have to attract say 50,000 tory voters total but if you attract the right 50,000 tory voters that may cause say a 30 seat swing between tories and labour, which is enough to get them back into power. What I find completely strange is there's no idea/tactic evident to try to attract anybody who didn't vote last time, which is 40% of the available votes. In five years time everyone who is currently 13 or more will get to vote and we'll probably have lost a roughly equal number of the elderly. Attracting that young population could be equally as powerful a tool as attracting marginal voters but they don't seem to be making any public efforts to do so at all and reports suggest Corbyn's campaign is attracting large numbers of new or soon to be voters. They've also basically taken every labour voter in England for granted - they're just assuming none of them will walk away if they move to the right. I find the PLP's tactics perplexing to say the least. It seems possible to me they've become obsessed with the 'micro management' of marginal constituencies, fixated on the minutae. It's like a golfer becoming fixated on working on getting his putting technique just right while ignoring the bit about getting the ball onto the green. |
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